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🍿 Final Trump x Biden Presidential Debate (open thread)

I don’t know how damaging that is. I think one of the things that really needs to be explained to people is that oil =! freedom for a lot of reasons, but also some people are pretty tired of being on fire.

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I suppose it depends on how people (in PA specifically) “hear” those comments? Either way, Biden needs to be more clear and nuanced with his answer because saying “yes” leaves too much for interpretation

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Agree with you on this. Biden kind of threw it in at the end and Trump tried to skewer him immediately. Yes, it is a complex issue. When we get to net-zero carbon emissions (by 2035 is it?) It will take a long process of weaning public use and changing over industry standards which takes a whole lot of ‘nuance’ as you say.

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As someone who comes from PA, I can tell you that in the relevant parts of the state a not-insignificant percentage is one big underground coal fire and are still like “coal is fine.” They are not people he is going to reach on this particular issue. Nothing he could have said that isn’t “bring back coal IMO” is going to play with the fossil fuels crowd there. That’s compounded by the fact that people who live in the areas in question tend to be less ideologically opposed to Trump in general.

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On the T campaign trail, QAnon and T officials, all wearing QAnon conspiatotial t-shirts. Fully part of the campaign which we knew, but some evidence of it from NY Magazine writer.

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WH press photographer took this. Church & State in lockstep.

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