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Schiff stepped in again when Ratcliffe pretended to want a response from Taylor and then interrupted him and said there was no time. It’s very clear that the GOP is used to playing games with the time limits and he will have none of that.

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#1347

Neat little trick…Rep Turner trying to discredit Taylor and Kent because they had not met the president. But all the ones who have had contact with T are not testifying…because they don’t want to, or prevented from doing so…

Weak…Rep Turner…you are weak.

Charlie Savage

Washington Correspondent

Turner and other Republicans attack Taylor and Kent as witnesses for not having had direct contact with Trump. Of course, Trump told those who did – Mulvaney, Pompeo, Bolton and others – not to testify.

Annie Karni

White House Correspondent

And Turner is trying to dismiss their testimonies as hearsay and opinion.

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#1348

In another corner of this scandal, the Roger Stone trial is coming to a close and we could in the near future see aspects of it appearing in this inquiry:

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#1349

Annie Karni

White House Correspondent

Taylor appears to be unflappable, even as Republicans imply that his testimony is wrong.

In the face of Rep Jim Jordan…who screams at him.

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#1350

The GOP made a big mistake a few minutes ago – Turner admitted that the 6th amendment does NOT apply here, undermining a major GOP and Trump talking point about due process.

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#1351

missed it…

Republicans - all about process, nothing on substance - That’s all I got.

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#1352

One of the R’s talking point (and espicially Jordan) …there aid was never withheld, but it was and because it was exposed by Politico then the Ukrainians knew that that ‘condition’ was exposed.

Charlie Savage

Washington Correspondent

Jim Jordan’s argument is that Taylor was evidently wrong that Trump’s intent was to condition the aid release on an announcement of investigations into the Bidens, since that didn’t end up happening: Trump ultimately released the aid without an announcement. Jordan’s argument is seemingly vulnerable to the fact that circumstances significantly changed in the interim (bipartisan congressional pressure, the filing of the whistleblower complaint). So it’s interesting that Jordan is opting with that tactic, rather than arguing that there would be nothing wrong with Trump conditioning aid on the announcement.

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#1353

We also now know that it was John Bolton who released that aid. I wonder when that will come up.

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#1354

A Mulvaney-type question OMG or State department witness perhaps.

Bloomberg reported on Saturday that though Trump claims he had unfrozen funds for the aid on September 11 after Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH) had begged for him to do so that day, the State Department had already quietly released the aid on Bolton’s orders several days prior. Bloomberg could not verify whether Trump had signed off on Bolton’s directive.

The department reportedly released the aid after White House lawyers found that Trump and the Office of Management and Budget could not legally delay it, a finding the lawyers had made earlier in 2019. According to Bloomberg, the lawyers detailed the finding in a classified memo to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

An unnamed source told Bloomberg that White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney was blindsided by Bolton’s order.

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#1355

This is universally true…we are all in our own echo chambers.

Michael S. Schmidt

Washington Correspondent

Whatever you think of today’s testimony, it shows the problem when politics is brought into fact finding. One side sees the evidence one way. The other sees it another. Many Americans probably believe that the lawmakers made up their minds before the first witness testified.

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#1357

I officially love Rep. Welch pushing back against Gym Jordan’s attack on the whistleblower: “I’d love to have the person who started it all come and testify, Trump can take a seat right there.”


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#1359

Two GOP Reps have tried to slip some sort of papers or info into the hearing and gotten shut down. What’s going on with them?

Edit: A third GOP Rep tries to slip in an unrelated article after Val Demings knocks it out of the park noting how the GOP and WH are obstructing with withholding subpoenaed materials and accounts.

Seems like the GOP is trying to just slip in random articles about Obama and Clinton with no relation to the situation.

Here we go. They’re bringing up the fact that the whistleblower report came out before the release.

:man_facepalming: And now the GOP are being idiots and trying to claim Mulvaney said there was no quid pro quo, ignoring that he also said THERE WAS QUID PRO QUO on live TV. And are again pushing the conspiracy theories that Trump is being impeached for.

And Schiff gets the last word: the aid was released within 48 hours of the WH learning that Congress would definitely become aware of the situation through the whistleblower and he does NOT know who the whistleblower is.

Now THIS is a perfect conversation.

EDIT: Last bit – The GOP just tried to force a vote to subpoena the whistleblower; it got tabled, 13-9, because, again, it’s illegal and an attempt to harass the whistleblower.







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#1360

Cross-posting :pray:

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#1361

Summary of Impeachment Inquiry into Trump 2019

What’s new this week? All of this… :scream:

November 5th -13th News:

Documents:

Just in case you want to print them all out and roll around in them, like Demi Moore from that one movie.

Closed Door Hearings:

  • 10/04/19 Appeared - Michael Atkinson, the Inspector General of the intelligence community

Closed Door Depositions:

Updated with more even testimonies than before!

Note: All depositions for Oct. 24 and 25 had been postponed due to services for the late former House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-Md.)

Public Impeachment Hearings:

Wow, so much to watch! :popcorn:

Thanks for skimming, ok, now i need a nap :woman_technologist:t2:

:newspaper: Timeline has been updated. Breaking news starts below. :point_down:

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#1362

OMG this group brings more news than a fish monger! :raised_hands::raised_hands::raised_hands::raised_hands:

Dumb joke but I see a couple of user created well-cited timelines of different calls and events, I have bookmarked those and that’ll be the next thing I try and figure out how to format and integrate into our massive Trump impeachment wiki. Thanks for posting those, they will not be forgotten. :clap::clap::clap:

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#1363

Appeals court hands Trump another loss, saying Congress can seek his tax returns

An appeals court has denied for the second time President Donald Trump’s attempt to stop an accounting firm from turning over his financial documents to the House, making it the second tax case Trump’s lawyers say they are taking to the Supreme Court.

The DC Circuit Court of Appeals said on Wednesday that a panel of eight judges out of 11 voted against allowing Trump to continue his appeal.

The decision is another loss stacked against Trump, after federal judges have repeatedly rebuked him and greenlighted the House’s effort as it also pursues his impeachment. The case, if Trump loses again with the Supreme Court, could deliver his tax returns or closely related financial documents into the hands of House Democrats.

The opinion reiterates the strong signal the court sent last month, when it upheld a lower court ruling that Trump’s longtime accounting firm Mazars USA must comply with a House subpoena of his tax documents and turn over eight years of accounting records.

Trump’s attorney Jay Sekulow said Wednesday that they will appeal the decision to Supreme Court, noting “well reasoned dissent” from three judges to Wednesday’s opinion.

Three out of eleven judges. :peanuts:

More,

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#1364

Each new revelation is welcome in the face of the obstruction coming from T 'n co…

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#1365

Reposting because this page is handy.

Washington Post’s Impeachment Calendar

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