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More Questionable Behavior from Trump, T Admin, DOJ, and R's vs Dems, Press, Justice

Levers of power wanted this outcome…no question.

Adding this…

Update: As I was posting this, reports that Burr is stepping down from Chair of SSCI came out.

The LAT has a big scoop revealing that the FBI seized Richard Burr’s cell phone yesterday, having gotten a probable cause warrant incorporating information they obtained via a search of his iCloud.

Given the progression from an iCloud warrant to the warrant for the cell phone, it’s likely the FBI is seeking out texts between Burr and his brother-in-law around the time of the stock sales. (The FBI often access iCloud to find out what apps someone has accessed, obtains a pen register to identify communications of interest using that app, then seizes the phone to get those encrypted communications.)

The public evidence again Burr is quite damning, so there’s no question that this is a properly predicated investigation.

Still, coming from a DOJ that has gone to great lengths to protect other looting (and has not taken similar public steps against Kelly Loeffler), the move does raise questions.

Particularly given the focus that Richard Burr gave, during the John Ratcliffe confirmation hearing, to getting the final volume of the SSCI Report on 2016 declassified and released by August.

From the Ratcliffe hearing

Richard Burr: Congressman, over the course of the last three years this committee has issued four reports about Russia’s meddling in our elections covering Russia’s intrusions into state election systems, their use of social media to attempt to influence the election, and. most recently confirming the findings of the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment. While being mindful of the fact that we’re, um, in an unclassified setting, what are your views on Russia’s meddling in our elections?

John Ratcliffe: Chairman, my views are that Russia meddled or interfered with Active Measures in 2016, they interfered in 2018, they will attempt to do so in 2018 [sic]. They have a goal of sowing discord, and they have been successful in sowing discord. Fortunately, based on the work–the good work of this committee, we know that they may have been successful in that regard but they have not been successful in changing votes or the outcome of any election. The Intelligence Community, as you know, plays a vital role on insuring we have safe, secure, and credible elections and that every vote cast by every American is done so properly and counted properly.

Burr: Will you commit to bringing information about threats to the election infrastructure and about foreign governments’ efforts to influence to Congress so we’re fully and currently informed?

Ratcliffe: I will.

Burr; Will you commit to testify at this committee’s annual worldwide threats hearing?

Ratcliffe: I will.

Burr: And last question, over the last three years we have issued four reports. Number five is finished. Number five will go for declassification. Do we have your commitment as DNI that you would expeditiously go through the declassification process?

Ratcliffe: You do.

Burr: Senator Warner.

Mark Warner: Thank you Mr. Chairman. You actually took some of my questions.

Burr: My eyesight is good.

Warner: Mr. Ratcliffe, good to see you again and I appreciated our time, um, um, last Friday. I want to follow-up on a couple of the Chairman’s questions first. As we discussed, we’re … Volume Five, and so far our first four volumes have all been unanimous. Or maybe with the exception of one dissenting vote. If we get this document to the ODNI we need your commitment not only that we do it expeditiously, but as much as possible to get that Volume Five reviewed, redacted, and released, ideally before the August, the August recess. Now, I know you’ve not seen the report yet. All I would ask is, aspirationally that you commit to that goal, because I think as we discussed, to have a document that could be [big pause] potentially significant come out in the midst of a presidential campaign isn’t good or fair on either side. So if I could clarify a bit, recognizing that you’ve not seen the document is a thousand pages, that you’d try to get this cleared prior to August.

Ratcliffe: Vice Chairman, I would again, commit that I would work with you to get that as expeditiously as possible.

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Here is what I find telling: right-wing sites like the Gateway Pundit are selling this all as a good thing, touting Burr as a failure in his role as Senate Intel head:

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WTFery…

Sloppy - it’s Senator Mark Warner (not Warren) Maybe an ode to another nemesis for them Sen Elizabeth Warren.

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R’s hope to stress and create a counter-narrative of Russia investigation was not warranted nor was any of it real, just hopped up Dems, and disgruntled FBI/CIA to get rid of T. Starts in June…

WTFery

CNN reporter

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Recognizing the absurdity, and horrendous misuse of power, from Grenell (acting DNI) who released or unmasked various people involved in seeking Flynn’s potential malfeasance…and ousting of Sen Burr from his Intell position, all in the name of T loyalty.

This comes from an Obama-era NSC worker, Ben Rhodes.

From Wiki - Benjamin J. Rhodes (born November 14, 1977) is an American writer, political commentator and former Deputy National Security Advisor under Barack Obama.

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Today’s presser - As seen on Fox Network - T, Azar, MnEnany #fileUnderLiesRUs

Follow thread (put the subjects that T 'n Co touched on this excerpt)



@atrupar (voxjournalist)

2/ Azar, yelling, attacks Dr. Bright: “While we are launching Operation Warp Speed, he is not showing up for work.”

3/ Trump is back to promoting hydroxychloroquine. He also attacks Dr. Bright.

4/Trump on Richard Burr stepping down as intelligence chairman: ¯_(ツ)_/¯

5/Trump concludes his latest Rotor Rant by lying about testing (the US has not done more than the rest of the world combined – not even close), and getting perturbed when he can’t hear a reporter over the loud helicopter engines

Does this belong here? or Under Questionable things… @MissJava or @Pet_Proletariat would you be able to move it please? My thanks!

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This explains why almost all of the Republicans hammered on that stupid drug with Dr. Bright.

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Updated at 6:07 p.m. ET

The Senate sought to strengthen some protections for those targeted by government surveillance on Thursday with the passage of an amended bill that now faces an uncertain outlook.

Senators voted 80-16 to reauthorize lapsed provisions of the now-notorious Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and also revise some aspects of how it can be used by the Justice Department and the FBI.

In doing so, however, they passed a version of the legislation different from the one they received from the House, requiring its members to concur with another vote and then for the result to go to President Trump.

Expiring tools revived

Members of Congress wrote expiration dates into surveillance laws so that action would be required to sustain them over time.

When the clock ran out in March on one part of FISA, so did authorities’ ability to use elements including the so-called “business records,” “lone wolf” and “roving wiretap” provisions in counterterrorism or espionage investigations.

The bill passed by the Senate on Thursday would restore those powers, albeit with new restrictions backed by a coalition of civil libertarian Republicans and Democrats.

Leahy invoked the dark legacy of the abuses by President Richard Nixon and said the time had come again for Congress to tackle government surveillance power.

Leahy cited a Justice Department investigation that found problems with a number of FBI requests to the secret FISA court, specifically involving evidence or documentation about the alleged activities of potential targets.

The benefits of this amendment would be significant,” he said. “Responding to the latest inspector general report … we would require that the government turn over all material exculpatory information to the court, and make it available to the amici, too, if one is appointed. That is a basic due process protection available in every public courtroom in America. The FISA court should be no exception.”

Today the Senate has an opportunity to reform our flawed surveillance authorities," he said. "Such opportunities do not come by often and we should not squander it.

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@dragonfly9 you’ll appreciate this

Marcy Wheeler has a great explainer piece on this, Flynn was unmasked for several things and even before the Kislyak call. Read :point_down:

Found through this thread👇

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It would seem that after being accused of punishing Burr but not Loeffler, the Trump regime may be throwing her under the bus as well.

Loeffler Turns Over Coronavirus Stock Sale Docs to Feds

The Daily Beast first reported that Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA) and her husband unloaded millions in stock before the market tanked. They have denied wrongdoing.

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It is heaps upon heaps of spy v spy…I think.

Now, I feel a bit lame but could you explain what the meaning behind ‘unmasking’ bit is…? @Pet_Proletariat …I need an explainer too!

My thinking - The NSA or perhaps the FBI was listening to various conversations, or learned of calls between people like Flynn, or Biden with a person these agencies are watching - IE, the Flynn/Kislyak call was picked up by NSA/CIA or Five Eyes and then gets reported to NSA is it?

And Yates learned of this call, and that Flynn lied to Pence and therefore Flynn could be targetted by the Russians. FLynn resigned and then charges were brought up.

Then the ‘unmasking’ tells who was on the other end, ie unwitting source and can lead one to figure out who that ‘source’ might be, and dangerous because it reveals some NSA/FBI methodology.

But if you bring this Chief of Staff McDonough and he’s talking to who? Kislyak or was he just being listened to, or somehow monitored?

I am not good at this level sleuthing…and have lost the meaning of it. :slightly_frowning_face:

Ultimately ‘unmasking’ knocks out the NSA/FBI sources and methods, and here is a plan for the Grassley’s, Jim ‘Gym’ Jordan’s to say…see, these guys were up to tricks too? And it becomes a re-eclection ploy to say the FBI could never be trusted.

THx.

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@dragonfly9 I’m glad you asked, read from AP News below👇

WHAT IS UNMASKING?

During routine, legal surveillance of foreign targets, names of Americans occasionally come up in conversations. Foreigners could be talking about a U.S. citizen or U.S. permanent resident by name, or a foreigner could be speaking directly to an American. When an American’s name is swept up in surveillance of foreigners, it is called “incidental collection.” In these cases, the name of the American is masked before the intelligence is distributed to administration officials to avoid invading that person’s privacy.

Unless there is a clear intelligence value to knowing the American’s name, it is not revealed in the reports. The intelligence report would refer to the person only as “U.S. Person 1” or U.S. Person 2.” If U.S. officials with proper clearance to review the report want to know the identity, they can ask the agency that collected the information — perhaps the FBI, CIA or National Security Agency — to “unmask” the name.

Unmasking requests are common, according to Michael Morell, former CIA deputy director and host of “Intelligence Matters” podcast.

“Literally hundreds of times a year across multiple administrations. In general, senior officials make the requests when necessary to understand the underlying intelligence. I myself did it several times a month and NSA adjudicates the request. You can’t do your job without it,” he said.

Morell emphasized that unmasking is not the same as declassification. “When a name is unmasked, the underlying intelligence to include the name remains classified so leaking it would be a crime.”


WHEN WOULD AN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY UNMASK A NAME?

The request is not automatically granted. The person asking has to have a good reason. Typically, the reason is that not knowing the name makes it impossible to fully understand the intelligence provided.

The name is released only if the official requesting it has a need to know and the “identity is necessary to understand foreign intelligence information or assess its importance,” according to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence’s latest report, which includes statistics on unmasking. “Additional approval by a designated NSA official is also required.”

Former NSA Director Mike Rogers has said that only 20 of his employees could approve an unmasking. The names are shared only with the specific official who asked. They are not released publicly. Leaking a name, or any classified information, is illegal.


HOW OFTEN ARE NAMES UNMASKED?

The number of unmasking requests began being released to the public in response to recommendations in 2014 from the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board.

There were 9,217 unmasking requests in the 12-month period between September 2015 and August 2016, the first period in which numbers are publicly available. The period was during the latter years of the Obama administration.

The number rose during the Trump administration. The 9,529 requests in 2017 grew to 16,721 in 2018 and 10,012 last year.

Unmasking people is confusing but not illegal or even irregular. Incidentally , the Trump Administration holds the record for the most unmasking of Americans caught up in “incidental collections”. Why is it bad now?

I give this MAGA argument :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:/5
You should laugh at these people.

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Because T 'n Co like to recast the story as they like, fulfilling their disruptor status with flying colors.

Thanks @Pet_Proletariat for that thorough analysis of what unmasking is…

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The only thing that’s really weird, is the why? Why fight for Flynn? Is he really that short of allies of the Republican Party? Why bring back Flynn? Is it all a story for his base during the pandemic? These fake drummed up right wing conspiracy scandals.

U.S.: Total confirmed cases as of 10:30 p.m. ET: 1,417,512 — Total deaths: 85,886

He’s not going to find a bigger story than his Performance and federal response during the pandemic and current recession. It’s kitchen table issue time and he’s talking about bringing back the fucking, “lock her up” cheerleader because he’s doing shitty in the polls. It’s bullshit, even for the GOP.

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I know…the issues that are so concerning and terribly important to what a President should be thinking about, he gives no credence too. He can NOT a be compassionate and stand up guy now or ever when it comes to this national emergency.

IMHO T is strictly shoring up his ‘team’ - those who were loyal to him - Flynn, Stone…and not leaving any trace behind that there ever was a Russia problem, it was always the Dems who were crazy, Never Trumpers.

We have dealt with this crazy man for this amount of time…and it is a mob king hit of sorts. We are getting those thugs out of jail no matter what. These are my men…
No Russia story…none whatsoever.

T passcodes - Loyalty…blood pact…our little secret.

T will fall on his sword, arse etc to the end. He’s a stubborn freak.

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Of course it is an attempted distraction from the horrific failure that his incompetence has foisted upon America, with his inability to grasp even the fundamentals of what would constitute a coordinated response to a pandemic. He is reacting in the only way he knows how. This latest opinion piece on Vox is well worth the minute read.

Throughout Trump’s presidency, he has consistently treated the investigatory and law enforcement powers of the US government as tools to be deployed for purely political reasons. During the coronavirus crisis, when his presidency is once again in mortal danger, he has stepped on the gas on this kind of abuse of power — the Justice Department has dropped charges against Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who had pleaded guilty, and Trump now seems to be trying to get them to treat Obama like a criminal.

In democracies, presidents are not supposed to use law enforcement agencies as shields for their crooked political allies and swords against their political enemies. The threat that Trump poses to the rule of law, and the basic principles of a free society, has never been clearer.

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I am borrowing your explanation and that article in part for twitter. Thanks, I was wondering this myself!

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There is also the fact that they’ve built Flynn up into a martyr for their side, portraying him as wrongfully accused and badly mistreated by the Democrats and the evil Deep State.

So, just like with bringing that murderer Gallagher into the campaign, bringing Michael Flynn back seems like they’re supporting one of their own while thumbing their nose at their enemies.

The sad fact is, it will rally some of Trump’s base. The fact that MAGAs perceive Trump as “sticking it to their enemies” is one of the things they love most about him. It drives them irrationally wild, even to the point of ignoring when his actions harm them as well.

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Thanks for that further explanation - or recognition that all of it is just ‘stoking the fire.’
Irrational yes as well as dangerous.
Wow…what a predicament as to how low can you go.

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That said, I would bet he still has some stock of some sort.

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