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2020 Primary Election


Rep Sensenbrenner (R-WI) not running. Can not do much if the Dems hold Congress.


Missed this somehow. Did anyone watch?


I only saw a bit of Beto and Cory Booker at the tail end. Beto talked about getting moving on climate issues like yesterday…

These guys know their stuff and were citing specifics as to what should be done. Yes…it must have been 6 or so hours long…they gave each one of them their own time to discuss.



Four states are poised to cancel their 2020 GOP presidential primaries and caucuses, a move that would cut off oxygen to Donald Trump’s long-shot primary challengers.

Republican parties in South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona and Kansas are expected to finalize the cancellations in meetings this weekend, according to three GOP officials who are familiar with the plans.

The moves are the latest illustration of Trump’s takeover of the entire Republican Party apparatus. They underscore the extent to which his allies are determined to snuff out any potential nuisance en route to his renomination — or even to deny Republican critics a platform to embarrass him.

Trump advisers are quick to point out that parties of an incumbent president seeking reelection have a long history of canceling primaries and note it will save state parties money. But the president’s primary opponents, who have struggled to gain traction, are crying foul, calling it part of a broader effort to rig the contest in Trump’s favor.


There is some truth to this…unfortunately.

Am I too short sighted to see that they are not a political dynasty insomuch aa they are a brand whose endorsements may matter?

Unless their corrupt ways are exposed as illegal and their name is besmirched. …#NixonResignscorruption

Speaking to a convention of Republican Party delegates in Indian Wells, California, Brad Parscale also said the campaign’s goal is to build a national army of 2 million trained volunteers, far beyond the president’s 2016 organization, that in California could help the GOP retake a string of U.S. House seats captured by Democrats last year.

The Trumps will be a dynasty that will last for decades, propelling the Republican Party into a new party,” he said. “One that will adapt to changing cultures. One must continue to adapt while keeping the conservative values that we believe in.”


The Charlotte Observer
September 6, 2019

He’s not on the ballot, but Trump has jumped into NC’s 9th District race. Will it work?


Why am I posting about a 2018 do-over election in the 2020 Election thread? Because this is all about 2020 and all about Trump.

And talk about binary results! For Democrats, this will either be a huge win or a painful defeat. And the same applies to Trump and his Republican base. Come Wednesday morning, the outcome is guaranteed to fill the nation’s front pages – the winning side will be trumpeting victory and charging toward to 2020 – while behind the scenes, the losing side will be scrambling to do damage control.

Trump is staking everything he’s got on this one. Republican spending for their candidate is busting records, Trump is tweeting up a storm, and he’s holding a rally at the local airport tomorrow on election eve. What a black eye if his candidate loses, but how galling will be his braggadocios tweets if his candidate wins.

The race is a dead heat and the suspense is killing me! :cold_sweat:

If you are so inclined to pitch some coin into Democrat Dan McCready’s camp, here’s his page.

With tweets, emails and soon a visit aboard Air Force One, President Donald Trump has gone all in for Republican Dan Bishop in North Carolina’s special 9th Congressional District election. …

Trump is scheduled to fly to Fayetteville Monday night for a rally with Bishop. Vice President Mike Pence plans to hold an event earlier in the day at Wingate University in Union County. Donald Trump Jr. headlined a fundraiser last week in Monroe.

Polls show [Republican Dan] Bishop and [Democrat Dan] McCready locked in a tight race in a district Trump won by 12 points in 2016 and which no Democrat has won since 1963. Analysts rate it a toss-up, especially with an expected low turnout. …

State officials called the special election in February after evidence of election fraud led them nullify the 2018 election… [See note below.]

“The stakes are high — we NEED to win,” Trump wrote in a fundraising email for Bishop this week. …

Some analysts say the stakes are high for Trump himself.

“For Trump it’s important in terms of North Carolina and nationally that he shows that he has the clout to produce a good turnout,” said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics. “He needs to produce.”

NOTE: The election fraud that led to this do-over was by Republicans.

And here’s some in-depth coverage from The Hill:

This isn’t just the last race of 2018, it’s really the first race of 2020! Go McCready! :muscle:


Tom Steyer, the billionaire and former hedge fund investor turned impeachment activist, became the 11th Democratic presidential candidate to qualify for the October debateson Sunday after a new poll showed him with 2 percent support in Nevada.


Only 10 candidates earned enough support to appear in this week’s debate, and they will all appear on a single stage on Thursday night. But with 11 candidates now qualified for the October event, the D.N.C. may split that debate across two nights, as it did for the first two sets of debates in June and July. The committee has not yet indicated whether it will do so.


The top tier of the democratic primary is becoming exciting. Check out this new CBS poll.

I have my favorites but I would be proud to call any of the top polling candidates Ms. or Mr. President. How about y’all? Good group to choose from or are you disappointed?


I am ONLY open to the candidate that will beat T…tough enough in debate mode, honorable in their pursuit of the top job…but perhaps skeptical about their messaging.

I want better policies towards environment, health, taxes, banking, judiciary, college tuition…and for WTF’s sake infrastructure…but who can best carry that off without alienating the moderates?

Centrists do not always win…and does the ‘front runner’ Biden have enough spine to withstand withering bullying that T presents?

We have some smart and approacable candidates…and hopefully one of them can light up the electorate.

But am slightly disappointed in not seeing Obama-esque leader…in 400 + more daze…:grin:

(David Bythewood) #313

The Computer Scientist Who Prefers Paper

Barbara Simons believes there is only one safe voting technology.


So currently Sen Warren is raising campaign funds by way of grass roots methods, but her campaign had major funds that were raised by big donors prior to her Presidential run announcement and was raised by her 2018 Senate run. A technicality…but it could be an issue.

The sad part about all this is that there is so much dark money being spent that it is a competive issue and the grass roots funded groups will no doubt be outspent.

How Elizabeth Warren Raised Big Money Before She Denounced Big Money

The open secret of Ms. Warren’s campaign is that her big-money fund-raising through 2018 helped lay the foundation for her anti-big-money run for the presidency. Last winter and spring, she transferred $10.4 million in leftover funds from her 2018 Senate campaign to underwrite her 2020 run, a portion of which was raised from the same donor class she is now running against.

As Ms. Warren has risen in the polls on her populist and anti-corruption message, some donors and, privately, opponents are chafing at her campaign’s purity claims of being “100 percent grass-roots funded.” Several donors now hosting events for her rivals organized fund-raisers for her last year.

“Can you spell hypocrite?” said former Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania, who contributed $4,000 to Ms. Warren in 2018 and is now supporting former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.


That top tier is heating up! :fire: Should be interesting, although these kinds of stories always fire up the social media political bros. I’m predicting the next 24 hours of social news will be insufferable and will help no one.

(David Bythewood) #316

Valerie Plame is here to run for congress, kick ass, and chew bubblegum, and she’s all out of bubblegum:


In 2013, the Supreme Court gutted a core provision of the Voting Rights Act: The requirement for certain states with a history of voter discrimination to “preclear” changes in their election rules with the federal government. For decades, the 1965 law helped secure the right to vote for hundreds of thousands of people in nine states, as well as certain jurisdictions in six other states, which had such a history of discrimination against minority voters. But in the 5-4 decision in Shelby County v. Holder , the court ruled that the coverage formula for determining those jurisdictions subject to preclearance was outdated and therefore unconstitutional.

The consequences of the Shelby County decision were immediate: States that had previously fallen under the jurisdiction of the VRA immediately passed tough voter restriction laws and restructured election systems. But a new report released today by the civil rights coalition The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights adds another dimension to the picture of how this 2013 ruling has undermined voter access by analyzing the number of polling place that have been closed since the ruling. According to the report, entitled “Democracy Diverted: Polling Place Closures and the Right to Vote,” 1,688 polling places are now shuttered in those areas. The report, which is a follow-up to a 2016 analysis, looked at 757 counties and found that 298 of them, or 39 percent, reduced their number of polling places between 2012 and 2018.



It sure would have been nice to take this one, but this should just cause us to redouble our efforts.

This was a real David vs. Goliath battle (a local politician vs. the President of the United States) and this time Goliath won. The opponents will be more evenly matched in 2020. So…onward!!!

Dan Bishop, a Republican state senator, scored a narrow victory on Tuesday in a special House election in North Carolina that demonstrated President Trump’s appeal with his political base but also highlighted his party’s deepening unpopularity with suburban voters.

Mr. Bishop defeated Dan McCready, a moderate Democrat, one day after Mr. Trump made a full-throated plea for support for the Republican at a rally on the conservative end of a Charlotte-to-Fayetteville district, which the president carried by nearly 12 points in 2016.


Wow, y’all see this one? Looks like Democrat’s are starting to build a consensus. However likely voters are still in favor of Trump? I wonder how much of that support is because of their perception of the economy? :thinking:


Yes…she is gaining.

For better or worse, I tune in to the pundits (msnbc- Morning Joe and what do they know?!) - and while early still…she is running a super great campaign.

They are saying many Dems do not believe Biden is going to make it to nomination (looks weak) BUT that Warren is not Centrist enough for NH types.

See Emerson polling - she is losing to T. Look st Andrew Yang…


There are now less than five months to go before the first votes are cast in the Democratic presidential nominating contest. So the spotlight is going to be even hotter on the 10 candidates who made the cut for Thursday’s debate in Houston.

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren is ascendant with more Democrats saying they like her than any other candidate, but former Vice President Joe Biden continues to lead in the polls. So what might set them apart, what could be the flashpoints Thursday night, and can any of the other candidates break through?

Here are some key logistical questions, followed by political ones:

When is the debate? Thursday from 8-11 p.m. ET

What channel is it on? ABC and Univision (with Spanish translation)

Who are the moderators? ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, David Muir, Linsey Davis and Univision’s Jorge Ramos

Who’s on the stage? Biden, Sens. Cory Booker of New Jersey, Kamala Harris of California, Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Warren, as well as South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Obama Housing Secretary Julián Castro, former Rep. Beto O’Rourke of Texas and tech investor Andrew Yang.


Joe Biden is expected to use this week’s debate to argue Democrats should select a nominee who is able to offer “more than plans,” an adviser to the former vice president says, previewing a potential line of attack against Sen. Elizabeth Warren, whose campaign mantra is "I’ve got a plan for that."

Biden and Warren are set to face off on the debate stage for the first time at the third Democratic presidential primary debate, a one night event featuring 10 candidates in Houston on Thursday.

"I expect you’ll see Biden echo an important point he made during last week’ climate forum: we need more than plans, we need a President who can deliver progress on the most pressing issues facing Americans – which Joe Biden has proven he can throughout his career," a Biden adviser said.

We need more than plans? That’s it, that’s his attack? Ok but I don’t think that’ll work. Good luck! :raising_hand_woman:t2:‍♀