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🤮 Coronavirus (Community Thread)


Why we are not seeing the CDC up on the podium speaking to this issue is confusing, and why isn’t Dr. Fauci up there too? You wonder WTF.

As the United States enters a critical phase in fighting the [coronavirus pandemic](
story.html?tid=lk_inline_manual_2&itid=lk_inline_manual_2), the country’s leading public health agency, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, appears to be on the sidelines, with its messages increasingly disrupted or overtaken by the White House.

Neither CDC Director Robert Redfield nor Anne Schuchat — the principal deputy director who has played key roles in the agency’s emergency responses stretching back two decades, including the 2009 influenza pandemic — have appeared on the podium during White House briefings by the coronavirus task force for more than a week.

Redfield did join a smaller briefing Wednesday afternoon, for the first time since March 9. He and three other task force members stood with President Trump and Vice President Pence for the day’s second task force appearance. The event, which lasted seven minutes, followed a task force meeting with nurses groups, according to the White House. Trump and Pence were the only ones who spoke, and they took no questions.

The CDC, which has come under fire because of protracted delays in the rollout of agency-developed test kits, has not conducted its own telephone briefings for reporters in more than a week. Recent CDC recommendations on school closures and mass gatherings were overtaken by different guidelines issued by the coronavirus task force, creating confusion, experts and officials said.

“It is confusing for the public to have CDC say no gatherings of more than 50 people, and the next day, the task force says no gatherings of more than 10 people,” said Tom Inglesby, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. “If the information has changed, tell everyone why. Let’s make sure everyone is on the same page.”


Comments from media on Q & A with T - during today’s briefing today.


OANN (One American News Network - far right network) - T’s network tosses him an easy question and an opening where T can bash NYT, WSJ etc. “dishonest media sources” “They don’t call me.”

Video :point_down:

(Matt Kiser) #321

a timeline of the earliest weeks of the coronavirus outbreak in China, highlighting when the cover-up started and ended — and showing how, during that time, the virus already started spreading around the world, including to the United States.


I believe this…

NBC Reporter - Richard Engel

(David Bythewood) #323

OAN Reporter Asks Incredibly Bonkers Softball Question at Trump Coronavirus Presser


The pro-Trump outlet’s Chanel Rion asked if the term “Chinese food” is racist and encouraged the president to claim mainstream media are siding with the Chinese government.

(David Bythewood) #324

The FDA says it has not approved Chloroquine for Covid-19 use, contradicting the president’s statement

(David Bythewood) #325

I wish I could be surprised that Trump personally edited his speeches to make them more racist and xenophobic, but I am not.

Virus shutdowns prompt sweeping questions about the future of news and entertainment

One week ago, America’s great shutdown began in earnest. None of us have experienced anything quite like this before. The shock is still sinking in.


The House Oversight Committee asked the Trump administration on Thursday to demonstrate how it plans to produce and distribute coronavirus testing kits to Americans.

The big picture: The testing capacity for the coronavirus has expanded in the U.S. as more commercial labs pledge to up production. But labs have been sounding the alarm about dwindling supplies — and early testing failures left the country in the dark on how many people have been exposed to the virus.

What they’re saying: “We are gravely concerned that, due to multiple missteps, people across the country have been unable to get tested as healthcare providers are being forced to ration the extremely limited number of tests available, significantly degrading our country’s ability to conduct accurate modeling of the spread of the virus,” House Oversight Chair Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) asked, alongside other subcommittee chairs.

  • The Trump administration’s coronavirus task force has fallen short of its promise to ship millions of tests to Americans by last week, the chairs point out.
  • The committee also wants information on how the administration plans to produce and ship coronavirus tests, which officials are involved in coordinating the effort, and documentation on the country’s testing capacity.

Flashback: Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said last week that the health care system “is not really geared to what we need right now” when asked if there is one person in charge who can ensure that Americans who need coronavirus tests are receiving them.

  • “That is a failing. Let’s admit it. … The idea of anybody getting it easily the way people in other countries are doing it — we’re not set up for that. Do I think we should be? Yes. But we’re not,” he said.

OK…let’s check what’s really being done. Or has T 'n co offered to give that job to the Governors

(David Bythewood) #327

This thread explains how the coronavirus differs from the flu:

(Matt Kiser) #328

I feel like I’ve read a million versions of this story, but I think this is the only one to really nail the realities. Here’s a few choice quotes:

If no action to limit the viral spread were taken, as many as 2.2 million people in the United States could die over the course of the pandemic, according to epidemiologist Neil Ferguson and others at the Imperial College Covid-19 Response Team.

Adopting some mitigation strategies to slow the pandemic — such as isolating those suspected of being infected and social distancing of the elderly — only cuts the death toll in half to 1.1 million, although it would also reduce demand for health services by two-thirds.

Only by enacting an entire series of drastic, severe restrictions could America shrink its death toll further, the study found. That strategy would require, at minimum, the nationwide practice of social distancing, home isolation, and school and university closures. And such restrictions would have to be maintained, at least intermittently, until a working vaccine is developed, which could take 12 to 18 months at best.

Here is another thing that hasn’t been spelled out in our national conversation about flattening the curve: There will probably be more than one curve.

Like the bumpy hills some foresee in coming months, the 1918 pandemic hit America in three waves — a mild one that spring, the deadliest wave in fall and a final one that winter.

With each wave came a cycle of denial, devastation, community response finally kicking into overdrive — followed by finger-pointing and blame among leaders and the public.

(David Bythewood) #329

I noticed yesterday the absence of Dr. Fauci. I wasn’t the only one, but his disappearance is having a more pronounced response today, with “Where is Dr. Fauci” trending.

(David Bythewood) #330

The money is always the reason.


(David Bythewood) #331

ARRRRGH. Why doesn’t he enact the Defense Production Act!!!

(Lynn) #332

Joe Biden (Text Join to 30330) :heavy_check_mark: @JoeBiden

This administration is truly morally bankrupt. …

Kyle Griffin :heavy_check_mark: @kylegriffin1
Trump’s Agriculture Department said that it would appeal a judge’s ruling that it would be “arbitrary and capricious” to move forward during a global health crisis with food stamp changes that could force hundreds of thousands from the program. …


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California Governor Issues Emergency Order: Stay home except for essentials needs :mask:

California ordered its nearly 40 million residents to stay at home to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, marking the first statewide mandatory restrictions issued in the United States.

Nineteen people have died and more than 900 have tested positive for the disease in the state. Gov. Gavin Newsom’s order goes into effect Thursday evening and remains in place until further notice.

Under the order, essential services such as gas stations, pharmacies, grocery stores, farmers markets, food banks, convenience stores and delivery restaurants will remain open. So will banks, local government offices that provide programs and services, and law enforcement agencies.

Nonessential services such as dine-in restaurants, bars, gyms and convention centers will shut down.

Here’s the official web page outlining the order:

(David Bythewood) #334

Jim Inhofe (R-OK), Richard Burr (R-NC), Kelly Loeffler (R-GA) and Ron Johnson (R-WI).

FOUR GOP Senators who betrayed the American people to get rich through an oncoming pandemic.

How many more? When does it jump to the House?


California is now under Shelter-In-Place Orders

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) issued a statewide stay-at-home order starting Thursday evening. “This is a moment we need to make tough decisions," Newsom said at an online news conference. It is the strongest statewide restriction yet aimed at stemming the spread of the coronavirus. The announcement follows similar orders issued in the past few days across the San Francisco Bay area and Los Angeles.


Just going to repost this one

(David Bythewood) #336

Need a Coronavirus Test? Being Rich and Famous May Help

A US Health Weather Map created by Assistant Professor Benjamin Dalziel and Oregon State University.

WHO expert condemns language stigmatizing coronavirus after Trump repeatedly calls it the “Chinese virus”

Trump begging states not to report their swelling unemployment numbers:

This is a hard but necessary thread about what we could see as numbers swell and hospitals are overwhelmed:

A look at the growing insider traitors scandal:


Trump says a drug has been approved by the FDA to treat coronavirus. No it hasn’t. P.S. It could kill you.

@Windthin posted about this story as it was breaking. Here’s more information about how dangerous our President’s blizzard of lies can be.


Fact check: Trump wrongly claims FDA ‘approved’ drug chloroquine to treat the coronavirus

By Daniel Dale

Updated 8:51 PM ET, Thu March 19, 2020

President Donald Trump claimed during a White House briefing on Thursday that the Food and Drug Administration had approved the “very powerful” drug chloroquine to treat coronavirus.

Chloroquine is used to treat malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

“It’s shown very encouraging – very, very encouraging early results. And we’re going to be able to make that drug available almost immediately. And that’s where the FDA has been so great. They – they’ve gone through the approval process; it’s been approved. And they did it – they took it down from many, many months to immediate. So we’re going to be able to make that drug available by prescription or states,” Trump said.

He added: "Normally the FDA would take a long time to approve something like that, and it’s – it was approved very, very quickly and it’s now approved, by prescription."

Facts First : Chloroquine has not been approved by the FDA to treat the coronavirus – and nor has any other drug, the FDA made clear in a post-briefing statement that said "there are no FDA-approved therapeutics or drugs to treat, cure or prevent COVID-19."

In the video accompanying this article, CNN medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen, points out that this drug has been shown to be ineffective against other viruses. The Chinese have claimed that it was helpful against coronavirus, but have provided no supporting data. Not only that, there is a “very narrow margin between a safe and a toxic dose.”

Trump’s quack claims are dangerous. Lets hope that they don’t spark a black market in this drug because naive believers could wind up ODing on it.

Appallingly, later in the in the day, Trump doubled down on his lie (as he so often does) – he repeated it at a briefing with governors. Here’s the video. It starts with his usual word salad in which he touts the drug while offering no sources for his claims and then he concludes by definitively stating that the FDA has approved the drug – when, infact, it has not approved the drug for treating coronavirus.

(David Bythewood) #338

Speaking of drugs, this is an interesting story to watch, though it’s uncertain if it will be of help, as the site even admits the drug is not currently cleared as a treatment, though it is being tested.

Teva to Donate Potential COVID-19 Treatment, Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate Tablets to Hospitals Nationwide

Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein is now being pulled into the STOCK scandal. If she did in fact benefit from insider trading as it seems these others did, surprise, I want her prosecuted also. Justice should not play favorites.
Fox News, of course, is putting their own spin on it: