🤮 Coronavirus (Community Thread)

Windthin · February 27, 2020, 3:44pm

The right hand doesn’t know who the left hand is shooting.

Fears grow of a coronavirus pandemic as markets stumble again; Japan shuts schools

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/27/coronavirus-live-updates/#click=https://t.co/vKUxAjdwP4

https://twitter.com/minhtngo/status/1232910937901846541
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/northern-californian-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-first-us-case-with-no-link-to-foreign-travel/2020/02/26/b2088840-58fb-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html
https://twitter.com/minhtngo/status/1233050457133551618

2 studies of coronavirus patients suggest the disease’s incubation period could be longer than the standard quarantine period of 14 days

Public health experts warn Trump’s history of lying about crises is a ‘real problem’ as he downplays coronavirus and contradicts the CDC

dragonfly9 · February 27, 2020, 3:55pm

…well, I get your drift. No one really wants to bring harm essentially…BUT we could hope that they see that he is NOT WELL.

Wonder if ‘they’ think the same for non-MAGA believers???!!!

Windthin · February 27, 2020, 4:21pm

Of course Azar is behind the “the vaccine may not be affordable for all” statement.

Michael McAuliff takes a look at Alex Azar, pharmaceutical lobbyist, former drug company executive, Secretary of Health and Human Services, and opponent of the ACA, the man who wants to charge for a #coronavirus vaccine we don’t even have yet.

https://twitter.com/mmcauliff/status/1232820272098664448

elaphe · February 27, 2020, 5:24pm

So the coronavirus might not be “all bad” after all?

Windthin · February 27, 2020, 5:39pm

Note this key line:

But even when proceeding at an “emergency speed,” a vaccine would not be available for use for at least a year or 18 months

Keaton_James · February 27, 2020, 6:37pm

CNN - Gupta on Trump’s coronavirus claim: That’s not true

Trump makes misleading statement on risk of coronavirus.

Windthin · February 27, 2020, 7:02pm

FUCK.

Pence Will Control All Coronavirus Messaging From Health Officials

Government health officials and scientists will have to coordinate statements with the vice president’s office, one of three people designated as the administration’s primary coronavirus official.

GracieC · February 27, 2020, 7:05pm

I just want “them” to wake up. How can anyone keep believing a liar?

And I’m willing to believe they think the same for us non-believers.

Windthin · February 27, 2020, 8:34pm

Pence and the WH are clamping down on info. In that vacuum, media is bound to fill it with fear and sensationalism.

I’ve been told that there are already panicked people in some places stocking up on food and resources.

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus

If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.

Windthin · February 27, 2020, 9:30pm

Official CDC info on the Coronavirus:

U.S. Stocks Slide Into a Correction as Virus Fears Show No Sign of Easing

Coronavirus live updates: California monitoring 8,400 people, stocks continue free fall

Windthin · February 27, 2020, 10:14pm

I want to scream.

U.S. Health Workers Responding to Coronavirus Lacked Training and Protective Gear, Whistle-Blower Says

Team members were not properly trained, lacked necessary gear and moved freely around and off military bases where Americans were quarantined, a complaint says.

dragonfly9 · February 27, 2020, 10:17pm

A little backtracking…now Pence will have under him another expert Ambassador Debbie Birx, who handled the global HIV crisis as “White House coronavirus response coordinator”, as well as Cabinet member Azar in positions of power.

In the end, President Donald Trump got a coronavirus czar — without having to call it a czar.

Vice President Mike Pence, whom Trump appointed Wednesday to lead his coronavirus response, announced a global health official as the “White House coronavirus response coordinator” — installing a czar-like figure under him to guide the administration’s response to the outbreak after a protracted public dance around how to display the power of the federal bureaucracy to the American people.

The new role will put Ambassador Debbie Birx, who has served since 2014 as the U.S. government’s leader for combating HIV/AIDS globally, at the center of what now appears to be three leaders of the government response. Trump revealed in a news conference Wednesday evening that Pence would head up the administration’s management of the coronavirus, overseeing a task force nominally led by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. Birx will report to Pence but serve on the task force that Azar chairs.

dragonfly9 · February 27, 2020, 10:35pm

More than a ‘test’ for T’s competence…a nation is in need of good information.

And so, with the first case of coronavirus not tied to foreign travel being announced in California on Wednesday, Trump finds himself grappling with a crisis for which his record suggests he is particularly ill suited to respond.

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Trump’s charge is to calm, rather than con, a frightened nation. But now in his fourth year in office, he lacks credibility with broad swaths of the country — the sort of safety net that many of his predecessors could fall back on in moments of crisis.

Stephen Morrison, a senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, where he directs the center’s global health work, said that while the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has done “a fine job” in regularly updating the public with guidance, “the trick and the missing part is the communications at a higher level to the American public, and that’s from the president and the president’s designated surrogates.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/coronavirus-trump-experts/2020/02/27/71e8777c-5971-11ea-ab68-101ecfec2532_story.html

Windthin · February 28, 2020, 12:30am

matt · February 27, 2020, 11:03pm

Cross-posting from: Day 1134

Day 1134

1/ A whistleblower alleges that the Department of Health and Human Services “improperly deployed” more than a dozen workers to coronavirus quarantine locations who were “not properly trained or equipped to operate in a public health emergency situation.” The complaint alleges that the workers, who were not trained in wearing personal protective equipment, had face-to-face contact with repatriated Americans from China and were potentially exposed to coronavirus. The repatriated Americans were quarantined on military bases in California and Texas because they were considered at high risk for contracting the flu-like illness. The workers, however, returned to their normal duties, with some taking commercial flights back to their offices throughout the country. The complaint states that “appropriate steps were not taken to quarantine, monitor, or test [the workers] during their deployment and upon their return home.” (Washington Post / Wall Street Journal / New York Times)

2/ The White House instructed government health officials and scientists to seek approval from Mike Pence’s office before speaking publicly about the coronavirus outbreak . An administrative official said the move isn’t intended to muzzle government scientists and other health experts, but to make sure their efforts are being coordinated. Yesterday, Trump appointed Pence to lead the government’s coronavirus task force, which is nominally led by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. Dr. Deborah Birx, the director of the U.S. effort to combat HIV and AIDS, will serve as the Coronavirus Response Coordinator for the White House and report to Pence, but serve on the task force that Azar chairs. Additionally, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams, and Trump’s top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, will also join the coronavirus task force. (New York Times / Wall Street Journal / Bloomberg / Politico)

Windthin · February 28, 2020, 2:59am

Welcome to the #gaslight express.

We have misspelled lies that claim Trump’s racist border closings and flight bans are helping (they’re not).

We have blaming the media for the panic and lack of leadership he is causing, not to mention the laughable claim that CNN is “far left.”

And we have totally false claims that Pence and his cadre of Trump cronies have everything under control and numbers are going down when the exact opposite is clearly happening.

Windthin · February 28, 2020, 3:13am

He’s just… so… dumb…

dragonfly9 · February 28, 2020, 4:33am

Why in the world would Pence cancel this? Big dollars is why.

The country’s new point man on coronavirus response, Vice President Mike Pence, is expected to travel to Florida on Friday — but not on a public health mission.

Instead, Pence is headed to the moneyed barrier island town of Longboat Key, where he’ll be the main attraction for Congressional Republicans in one of their biggest fundraisers of the year.

It’s $2,500 to get in the door and $5,000 to take a picture with the vice president, according to an invite obtained by the Tampa Bay Times . And $25,000 buys dinner with him, too.

Keaton_James · February 28, 2020, 6:13am

Absolutely shameful. The second Pence was unexpectedly (and astonishingly) appointed by Trump to command our national assault on the coronavirus, he should have cancelled every single event that was not focused on that goal. Our entire nation is at risk and he’s dawdling at a fundraiser?! Outrageous. And as soon as Pence showed he wasn’t making a serious effort, Trump should have chastised him, or more appropriately, fired him from that position. Is Trump serious about helping us face this crisis or is he fiddling while Rome burns?

And here’s what Trump said today as he was supposedly “rallying” the nation:

It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear. And from our shores, you know, it could get worse before it gets better. Could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.

Ahh, now I can sleep soundly.

Just imagine, would Britain have made it through the Nazi bombing blitz if, instead of delivering his stirring “We shall fight them on the beaches…” speech, Churchill had said this:

The Nazis are going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle they will disappear. And from our shores, you know, the bombing could get worse before it gets better. Could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows.

Yeah, that would have inspired the Brits to give it their all. And we’d still be quoting it today.

dragonfly9 · February 28, 2020, 6:17am

Unfortunately…all for show @Keaton_James

"Tasked’ means appear as if you are trying to attack this potentially catastrophic situation.

Being the mouthpiece of the nation’s influenza onslaught is so fraught with pesky fundraisers here, and swatting away experts there, and it’s just his warm-up.
Old wooden-face Pence will do his ‘duty.’ - whatever the F that means.

Churchill had some guts…these guys, poses.

ARRRRGGGGHHHH.