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CDC considering recommending general public wear face coverings in public

In recent days, more people have taken to covering their faces, although it remains a scattershot strategy driven by personal choice. The government does not recommend it.

That may change. Officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are considering altering the official guidance to encourage people to take measures to cover their faces amid the coronavirus pandemic, according to a federal official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because it is an ongoing matter of internal discussion and nothing has been finalized.

Whatā€™s good enough for Seoul and Tokyo is good enough for me. We should have masks. The government should be providing us with emergency PPE for outbreaks at home. Thatā€™s where it starts, in these clusters in homes everywhere.

Listen to one womanā€™s account caring for her husband with covid-19. She could really use a mask.

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I agreeā€¦this information has just come to light, and important since they believe so much of it is airborne and received from the non-symptomtic ones. I have worn one in one market and was fine, and then went into another market without one, and came down with a sore throat, which went away. Yes, err on the side of caution.

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I know the feeling. Iā€™m nursing a migraine from a stiff neck. Iā€™m terrified itā€™s not my normal migraine, it feels normal but Iā€™m taking my temperature every hour. No fever but itā€™s freaking me out.

Last year to track symptoms I bought a Kinsa thermometer that can track symptoms for multiple household members, best money I ever spent. That and buying an oximeter before they sold out.

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How can we not be paranoid [at every little medical symptom] these days, especially when you read accounts of COVID-19 patients with so many different symptoms to start with. (And you BOTH had better be ok! Pretty please?)

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China already recommends it. Itā€™s the smart thing to do. A friend of my wifeā€™s is making us each a mask, and I am not going out until I get it. My wife is an essential worker, I want her with one, for her own safety.

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Disunited states of America: responses to coronavirus shaped by hyper-partisan politics

Uncle Blazerā€™s Timeline of Trump Lies and Incompetence:
https://twitter.com/blakesmustache/status/1244586703475691521

McConnell tries to claim credit for coronavirus stimulus bill salvaged by Schumer

Intermountain will cut pay for doctors and nurse practitioners amid coronavirus pandemic,


Slow Response to the Coronavirus Measured in Lost Opportunity

If the administration had reacted to the ventilator shortage in February, a private sector effort starting now might have made lifesaving equipment in mid- to late April. Now it is unlikely to be before June.

https://twitter.com/JesseLehrich/status/1244726881238351877

Republican Billionaireā€™s Group Pushes Unproven COVID-19 Treatment Trump Promoted

A nonprofit started by the billionaire co-founder of Home Depot says plants are ready to produce the drug but for ā€œred tape.ā€ Experts caution itā€™s unproven and possibly dangerous.

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Covid-19 Likely origins explained.

https://youtu.be/TPpoJGYlW54

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See Which States and Cities Have Told Residents to Stay at Home

India is experiencing looting, rioting, and a mass exodus.

ā€˜We Will Starve Hereā€™: Indiaā€™s Poor Flee Cities in Mass Exodus

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-30/-we-will-starve-here-india-s-poor-flee-cities-in-mass-exodus

What kind of person calls 100,000-plus dead a ā€˜very good jobā€™?

Soā€¦ dumbā€¦



Heroes


https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/restaurant-launches-adopt-doc-or-nurse-catering-service-during-covid-shutdowns/

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POLITICO Playbook: What they told us about the coronavirus

YOUā€™D BE FORGIVEN, in this time of trouble and distress, for wondering whether your federal government has a handle on this pandemic, or if itā€™s a complete and utter train wreck.

FIRST THEY TOLD US they had the coronavirus under control; now they tell us hundreds of thousands of people could die.

FIRST THEY TOLD US youā€™d need prolonged physical contact with someone with the virus to be exposed; now there are reports suggesting the disease might be transmitted in the air.

FIRST THEY TOLD US only old people or those with severely compromised immune systems were at risk; now people of all ages are dying due to COVID-19.

FIRST THEY TOLD US that we would be out of our houses by Easter; now weā€™re all quarantined in our homes, with Virginia suggesting residents canā€™t leave until June.

FIRST THEY TOLD US we didnā€™t need to cover our mouths in public because it would do no good; now the CDC says they might recommend it.

FIRST THEY TOLD US tests are available, plentiful and easy to get; now we hear stories almost daily about how some people canā€™t get tested, and if they can, many are waiting weeks for results. Weā€™ve heard some grim stories about people dying before their results are in.

FIRST THEY TOLD US Google would be building a website to help people figure out if they need to get tested, and direct them where to go if so; now, we see the site is live in just four counties in California, not across the country, as they indicated.

FIRST THEY TOLD US they had enough ventilators; now, in New York ā€“ one of the worldā€™s most important cities ā€“ a top hospital is telling doctors to ā€œthink more criticallyā€about who to give assistive air to.

Good Tuesday morning.

:clap::clap::clap: yes it was all lies

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Iā€™m sure thereā€™s a perfectly logical reason why the Pentagon has ordered military bases and combatant commands to withhold coronavirus case numbers. You can also bet itā€™s not a good reason, not at all.

Pentagon orders military bases to stop releasing specific COVID-19 numbers

Trump administration ā€œlooking atā€ hazard pay for doctors, nurses on front lines of COVID-19 fight










Hospitals Tell Doctors Theyā€™ll Be Fired If They Speak Out About Lack of Gear

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-31/hospitals-tell-doctors-they-ll-be-fired-if-they-talk-to-press?utm_medium=social&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid=socialflow-facebook-business&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3IjA0Y0J9GAXfxDrnfUAS9dqQbd3SWlNu__jEj_N5NbExZwDR6mkvDxfA

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More than 400 long-term care facilities report coronavirus cases

I Spent A Day In The Coronavirus-Driven Feeding Frenzy Of N95 Mask Sellers And Buyers And This Is What I Learned

You never know what a new day will bring. What started as an early morning call with a friend to help get N95 masks to hospitals in desperate need turned into a roller coaster of contacts in a frenzied, pandemic-driven market. For the next 10 hours, I sat in on calls between brokers selling masks and potential buyers, watching the psychology of market pressures play out in real time as millions of masks changed hands in a matter of hours.

The buyersā€”from state government purchasing departments and hospital systems representing facilities throughout the Northeast, Midwest and Californiaā€”expressed desperation for masks to protect their healthcare workers, but in the end not a single deal was completed with any of these groups, and millions of masks were earmarked to leave the country, purchased by foreign buyers.

In the interest of brevity, Iā€™m going to summarize what I learned below and then jump into a bit more detail.

  • Millions of N95 masks have been available throughout the U.S., Canada and the UK during the pandemic, according to brokers trying to sell them.
  • The high price point per mask, driven by extreme demand, has contributed to an overwhelmed reaction among potential buyers, especially in the U.S.
  • Scrutiny surrounding these deals is high because of ongoing scams and claims of price-gouging, both of which are triggering emotionally charged reactions and fear of making deals.
  • Millions of masks are being purchased by foreign buyers and are leaving the country, according to the brokers, while the domestic need remains alarmingly high.

My main contact in this frenzy was a medical supplies broker named Remington Schmidt who spends nearly every working hour of the day on phone calls trying to make deals between potential buyers and sellers with personal protective equipment (PPE) available to sell in the U.S. and abroad.

ā€œThis is the craziest market Iā€™ve ever seen,ā€ he told me between calls while scanning through a stream of text messages from sellers and other brokers.

Like most brokers in this market, Remington represented other products before the COVID-19 outbreak and jumped into action to sell masks when the need arose. Just a couple of weeks ago he was selling hazmat suits.

When contacting potential buyers, Remington needs two things to secure a deal with a seller: a letter of intent to purchase and proof of funds.

ā€œIf you are working with a seller who has masks but you canā€™t quickly show proof of funds, someone else is going to buy them,ā€ he told me.

And I watched that happen repeatedly throughout the day. Buyers from state procurement departments and hospital systems expressed desperate need for masks, but the deals bogged down when it came to providing proof that they could commit and follow through. In the meantime, another buyer provided proof of funds and the masks were gone, sometimes within the hour.

The masks in play are those weā€™ve been hearing about in every press conference since the pandemic began: N95 3Mā„¢ brand masks, mainly in model types 1860 and 8210, which, according to 3Mā„¢, are ā€œNIOSH (National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health) approved for at least 95% filtration efficiency against certain non-oil based particles.ā€ Some buyers are also looking for alcohol-based sanitizer sprays, hospital gowns and a few other items, but mostly the demand is for N95 masks. And the demand is only getting more intense as hospitals rapidly run low on the supplies they have due to increased need for masks to protect staff as numbers of COVID-19 infections, and suspected infections, increase each day.

Remington explained that his business is all about networks. ā€œItā€™s a contact to contact to contact market.ā€ Through his network of contacts, he finds a seller with masks in a warehouseā€”several million masks in each lotā€”and attempts to link the product with buyers in need.

I felt like I was getting whiplash throughout the day by the insane pace of negotiations and how often the price point changed as the market frenzy continued. Prices ranged from anywhere between $6 ā€“ $7 per mask depending on volume and location. The same masks were selling for closer to $4 just a week before.

Remington received text updates from his network about ever-changing quantities of masks in Houston, New Jersey, Miami, Los Angeles and other U.S. cities, along with cities in Canada and the UK. I was astounded by the numbers of masks at these locations. At one point he received an update that 43 million masks were available in New Jersey, in the same time-frame that federal and state leaders were saying in press conferences that they were ā€œscouring the globeā€ for masks. But the masks in New Jersey, along with many million more, didnā€™t go to any domestic buyer. Instead, according to the broker, they were all purchased by foreign buyers.

ā€œMost of the masks are leaving the country,ā€ he told me.

That is not the case in countries that have cracked down on exports, he added, but as of now the U.S. is allowing many types of medical supplies to leave the country even as states and hospital systems are expressing desperate need for masks and other PPE.

While he is aware of brokers selling masks that will leave the country, Remington doesnā€™t participate in those deals. ā€œThis is a national crisis and we need these masks in the country,ā€ he said.

Scrutiny in the market is sky high. People are understandably concerned about being taken in scams. The insanity of this market has created opportunities for fraudsters claiming to sell everything from masks to hospital gowns to ventilators, and every potential buyer is on guard to avoid being the next victim. More than once, a representative from a potential buyer also noted concerns about price gouging.

ā€œSome people donā€™t understand that the market sets the price,ā€ Remington said.

I read through a list of mask lots sent to him from U.S. sellers along with their expected price points and, at that time, none were under $6 per mask. This is clearly a sellerā€™s market and price is driven by demand.

Added to this, potential buyers trying to secure PPE for their medical personnel are often not empowered to make fast, high-dollar deals, no matter how desperately theyā€™d like to close a deal and get masks to those in need. I listened to the range of emotions playing out in negotiations and it seemed to me that the domestic procurement process is simply unprepared to operate in this frenzied market. Individuals want to do the right thing, but the systems in which they operate are hamstrung by rules that werenā€™t created to approve enormous transactions in hours or less.

By the end of the day, roughly 280 million masks from warehouses around the U.S. had been purchased by foreign buyers and were earmarked to leave the country, according to the broker ā€” and that was in one day .

To his knowledge none of the masks had been purchased by buyers in the U.S.

Remington told me that his focus now is to try to sell masks to federal agencies like FEMA responsible for securing PPE so the items can go directly to the states that will distribute to hospitals, but itā€™s been extremely challenging to close a deal and the number of ā€œmiddle menā€ in the negotiations keeps rising.

ā€œMany people are marking up the prices in the middle,ā€ he said. ā€œPeople are just trying to make as much money as possible.ā€



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Wartime Production Law Has Been Used Routinely, but Not With Coronavirus

A Korean War-era law called the Defense Production Act has been invoked hundreds of thousands of times by President Trump and his administration to ensure the procurement of vital equipment, according to reports submitted to Congress and interviews with former government officials.

Yet as governors and members of Congress plead with the president to use the law to force the production of ventilators and other medical equipment to combat the coronavirus pandemic, he has for weeks treated it like a ā€œbreak the glassā€ last resort, to be invoked only when all else fails.

ā€œYou know, weā€™re a country not based on nationalizing our business,ā€ Mr. Trump said earlier this month. ā€œCall a person over in Venezuela, ask them how did nationalization of their businesses work out? Not too well.ā€

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Speaking of wartime, thereā€™s something Iā€™ve been wondering about: trump has recently called himself a ā€œwar-time presidentā€ presumably to boost his image (what else? :roll_eyes: ) ā€¦so doesnā€™t that mean that when he has deliberately caused people to die by, oh I donā€™t know, refusing to help the governors in certain states that heā€™s mad at, or greatly delaying their aid, or sending equipment that requires repairsā€¦ wouldnā€™t that be considered a war crime? :thinking:

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That makes him a war crime President

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Trump did not declare a national emergency until March 13, five weeks after impeachment. Whatever combination of myopia, self-delusion, and distrust of scientific expertise caused Trump to refuse to take the threat seriously, impeachment was weeks behind him before he finally roused himself.

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The ethical dilemmas facing the Medical professionals and the sheer numbers of patients in NYC is enormous. Hereā€™s an interview with an interim Emergency Room Doctor who fills in at various hospitals as needed. Heā€™s been working a LOT and describes what he sees when he walks in - 5 hour waits as people are on ambulance gurneyā€™s on sidewalk waiting to get into see the doctor. No safe distance between people in waiting room, and Covid-19 coughing all around is part of his day.

And naturally the hospitals are keeping closed mouthed about what Drā€™s can sayā€¦

Hospitals are threatening to fire health-care workers who publicize their working conditions during the coronavirus pandemic ā€“ and have in some cases followed through. Ming Lin, an emergency room physician in Washington state, said he was told Friday he was out of a job because heā€™d given an interview to a newspaper about a Facebook post detailing what he believed to be inadequate protective pment and testing. In Chicago, a nurse was fired after emailing colleagues that she wanted to wear a more protective mask while on duty. In New York, the NYU Langone Health system has warned employees they could be terminated if they talk to the media without authorization. ā€œHospitals are muzzling nurses and other health-care workers in an attempt to preserve their image,ā€ said Ruth Schubert,

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Iā€™m willing to bet itā€™s because their administrators have been threatened to keep silent by the POTUS. Just think about itā€¦in the middle of a pandemic & so many places short of PPE, itā€™s not a big secret & not really a reflection on the hospitals themselves to run short of suppliesā€¦but it sure DOES reflect on POTUS, & by now we ALL know that he threatens everyone who has dirt on him. Heā€™s hoping for re-election & Iā€™d call that pretty motivated to pressure hospitals over this, as he still hopes that FOX can continue lying for him & keeping America ignorant about his corruption. It also seems pretty counter-productive to fire any health care workers in the middle of this. :scream: People can die, but save the propaganda!

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Believe me, Iā€™ve been thinking about that. I want him to stand trial at the Hague.

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I usually call them Rhinestone and Rayon, but Tin and Foil may be my new favorite name for that pair.

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