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Not sure if this is the single issue you refer to. But it does indicate that even on the matter of abortion the moral right see that social justice issues far out weigh all other factors.

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Just helping a friend :wink:

Hours later, Regeneron filed an application to the US Food and Drug Administration for emergency approval for the treatment, the New York Times reported. Following Trumpā€™s video, stocks in the company climbed by 3.73% in after-hours trading. Trump has ties to Regeneron CEO Leonard Schleifer, who is a member of the presidentā€™s golf club in Westchester. Trump also used to own Regeneron shares, according to his 2017 filing with the Office of Government Ethics. However, the shares were not listed on his most recent filing.

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Tā€™s commandeering the air waves, connecting with his baseā€¦and Rush, calls it, ā€œyouā€™ve got a jam-packed day.ā€

WTFery

While I have seen many people on the religious right speak to this, my motherā€™s fundamentalist bubble is not budging. Itā€™s hard to explain, but I am so grateful I escaped. They arenā€™t pro-life, they are anti-abortion.

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White House Blocked C.D.C. From Requiring Masks on Public Transportation

The order would have mandated that both passengers and employees wear face coverings on planes, trains, buses and subways and in airports, stations and depots.

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Just more confirmation in the midst of all the misinformation.

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This is really common with ā€œpro-life.ā€ If the entire goal were avoid abortions they would be cool with proper sex education, reproductive health care, and birth control that is preemptive. But that is not the entire goal.

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Investments held in trusts, basically.

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Some discussions on what vaccines, treatments could be working on Covid from Bill Gates and Anderson Cooper, CNN. All are saying to expect another big spike on Covid this fall.
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WItness NBC Reporter Hallie Jackson ask the same question about 10 different ways to ā€˜remainingā€™ WH spokesman Brian Morganstern on when did the President last post Negative before he posts positive in the Covid test. The WH will not say, no one is touching that because it is critical to others, to Presidentā€™s own liability issues (Did he arrive at the Biden debate already with Covid? which many think yes) and reflects poorly on the WHā€™s overall testing policy for the President.

The WH defense strategy is like swiss cheeseā€¦so many holes in it, but all this posturing about ā€œItā€™s not relevant,ā€ and ā€œletā€™s move forward, etcā€ is just CYA.

This clip was played over several times yesterday and Hallie did a masterful job of getting to it again, and againā€¦but still no answer. Just does not ever pass the smell test.

and follow up joke. :laughing:

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Regeneron board member and executive sell $1 million in stock after Trump touts treatment

ā€œThese are pre-established at a time when the executive/director is not aware of any material, nonpublic information about Regeneron," a spokesperson said.

Also

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The relative numbers are astounding.

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The Trump regime is running an ad taking video of Dr. Fauci talking about the response out of context. He has stated he was not consulted, demanded it be taken down, and they have refused.

CNN exclusive: Fauci says he was taken out of context in new Trump campaign ad touting coronavirus response



Trump himself is gaslighting about this.

ABC host says White House blocked Fauci from appearing on show

Dr. Fauci Defends FDA Officials Amid Trumpā€™s Claim of a Political ā€˜Hit Jobā€™

Fauci: As many as 400,000 Americans could die from coronavirus

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Long view and a bit of optimism on the end of Coronavirus from respected science writer at NYT.

NYTimes: A Dose of Optimism, as the Pandemic Rages On

Today, and despite the presidentā€™s own resistance, masks are widely accepted. Various polls show that the number of Americans who wear them, at least when entering stores, went from near zero in March to about 65 percent in early summer to 85 percent or even 90 percent in October. Seeing the president and many White House staffers stricken by the virus may convince yet more Americans to wear masks.

The slow but relentless acceptance of what epidemiologists call ā€œnon-pharmaceutical interventionsā€ has made a huge difference in lives saved. The next step is pharmaceutical interventions.

Some are already modestly successful, such as the antiviral drug remdesivir and steroids like dexamethasone. But in the near distance are what Dr. William Schaffner, a preventive medicine specialist, has called ā€œthe cavalryā€ ā€” vaccines and monoclonal antibodies. They are likely to be far more effective.

Since January, when I began covering the pandemic, I have been a consistently gloomy Cassandra, reporting on the catastrophe that experts saw coming: that the virus would go pandemic, that Americans were likely to die in large numbers, the national lockdown would last well beyond Easter and even past summer. No miracle cure was on the horizon; the record for developing a vaccine was four years.

Events have moved faster than I thought possible. I have become cautiously optimistic. Experts are saying, with genuine confidence, that the pandemic in the United States will be over far sooner than they expected, possibly by the middle of next year.
That is still some time off. Experts warn that this autumn and winter may be grim; indoor dining, in-classroom schooling, contact sports, jet travel and family holiday dinners may all drive up infections, hospitalizations and deaths. Cases are rising in most states, and some hospitals already face being overwhelmed.

Even if the cavalry is in sight, it is not here yet. To prevent deaths reaching 400,000, Dr. Anthony S. Fauci has warned, ā€œWe all need to hunker down.ā€

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The Whole World Must Be Safe

In September, the actress Jennifer Garner conducted an entertaining interview with Dr. Fauci on her Instagram feed, during which she asked when it would be safe to attend live theater again. ā€œThe end of 2021 or maybe even the middle of 2021,ā€ he replied. By then, he explained later, so many Americans would be vaccinated ā€” or immune by virtue of having survived an infection ā€” that it would be safe to sit unmasked in a crowded theater.

Until then, masks and caution are our best alternative. If we rigorously protect ourselves and each other, we can starve the virus of new hosts until our national epidemic finally evaporates.

Then we must help other countries get vaccines too; until they are protected, we cannot venture beyond our borders as tourists or business travelers, nor can others come here. No country can be forgotten; charitable motives aside, their tourists fill our hotels.

We will have competition ā€” or help, if we take a generous view of a global effort. China claims to already have five vaccines in phase 3 trials, and Russia is already marketing its vaccine abroad, although it has not even conducted a phase 3 trial.

Many economists think our national recovery will be rapid, like those that followed the first and second world wars, rather than what followed the financial crashes of 1929 and 2008. China, having beaten the virus, has a growing economy again. Among Americans who have not lost their jobs, personal savings are at record levels. Despite loan defaults in this recession, banks are flush with cash and, if need be, can borrow from their thriving Asian counterparts. When the moment is safe, loans to revive restaurants, hotels and other small businesses should flow.

In the interim, as we hunker down, Congress must find ways to ensure that millions of Americans who are out of work do not go hungry or get evicted.

And once the pandemic is over, one more mission lies ahead: to make sure this does not happen again. We must search for the viruses in nature that are most likely to infect us, and spend the billions of dollars necessary to create vaccines and designer antibodies against them. So that next time we are ready.

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Dr. Fauci has been marginalized by the Trump WH, and now used without his consent in a Trump ad on TV, which Dr. F asked to have come down. I wonder if Dr. Fauciā€™s words are considered at all when he says that when there are campaign gatherings, there should be masks.

Nah, the WH will not listen to anything.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-12/trump-rallies-raise-concern-about-spread-of-virus-fauci-says?srnd=premium

President Donald Trumpā€™s planned campaign rallies this week ā€“ starting with one on Monday night in Florida ā€“ threaten to advance the spread of the coronavirus, warned Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. infectious disease expert.

ā€œLook at it purely in the context of public health,ā€ Fauci said on CNN. ā€œWe know that that is asking for trouble when you do that. Weā€™ve seen that when you have situations of congregant settings where there are a lot of people without masks, the data speak for themselves.ā€

Trumpā€™s rallies often feature supporters who are standing close together without masks.

The president returns to the campaign trail on Monday night for the first time since he was hospitalized for the coronavirus, with an outdoor rally planned at the Orlando Sanford International Airport. He is expected to travel to Pennsylvania on Tuesday night, visit Iowa on Wednesday, and go to North Carolina for an event Thursday afternoon.

On Monday afternoon, the physician to the president, Sean Conley, said Trump had tested negative for the virus ā€œon consecutive days.ā€

In the CNN interview, Fauci also said a Trump television commercial that took comments he made about the presidentā€™s response to Covid-19 ā€œcompletely out of contextā€ should be taken down. Fauci said the advertisement was ā€œdisappointingā€ and it would be ā€œterribleā€ if his comments were used in another ad.

The ad includes a brief clip of Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, saying, ā€œI canā€™t imagine that anybody could be doing more.ā€ His comment was made during an interview in March with Fox News. When he made those remarks is not shown in the ad.

ā€œThese are Dr. Fauciā€™s own words,ā€ said Tim Murtaugh, a Trump campaign spokesman. ā€œThe video is from a nationally broadcast television interview in which Dr. Fauci was praising the work of the Trump administration. The words spoken are accurate, and directly from Dr. Fauciā€™s mouth.ā€

The president continues to face criticism, from his Democratic opponent Joe Biden and other critics, over holding events that could spread Covid-19.

ā€œWe should be doubling down and implementing what weā€™ve been talking about, which are keeping a distance, no crowd, wear masks, washing hands, doing things outside as opposed to inside in order to get those numbers down,ā€ Fauci said in the CNN interview.

Trumpā€™s decision to resume large-scale rallies risks reinforcing perceptions that heā€™s been cavalier about a disease that has killed 215,000 Americans and sent the economy into recession.

Asked about Fauciā€™s remarks about the rallies, Courney Parella, another Trump campaign representative, said, ā€œWe take strong precautions for our campaign events. Every attendee has their temperature checked, is provided a mask theyā€™re instructed to wear, and has access to plenty of hand sanitizer. We also have signs at our events instructing attendees to wear their masks.ā€

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Yes, take care of yourself and travel separately from.T.

As Trump Flouts Safety Protocols, News Outlets Balk at Close Coverage - The New York Times

Major news organizations have become increasingly wary of sending journalists to travel with President Trump to White House events and campaign rallies, as the president and his aides continue to shun safety protocols after an outbreak of the coronavirus within their ranks.

The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post are among the major outlets that have declined to assign reporters to travel with Mr. Trump as he returns to the trail this week, saying they do not have assurance that basic precautions will be taken to protect reportersā€™ health.

Foremost among the flouters is Mr. Trump himself, who, despite recently contracting the virus and spending three nights in the hospital, has shown little willingness to change his habits: On Saturday, he said the virus would soon ā€œdisappear,ā€ and on the way to a rally in Florida on Monday, he boarded Air Force One ā€” where reporters were seated in the cabin ā€” without wearing a mask.

At least three White House correspondents have tested positive for the coronavirus in the past two weeks, including a Times reporter who had traveled on Air Force One, Michael D. Shear.

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Dutch researchers report first death from COVID-19 reinfection


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A pause for Johnson & Johnsonā€™s vaccine trialā€¦in Phase 3

The study of Johnson & Johnsonā€™s Covid-19 vaccine has been paused due to an unexplained illness in a study participant.

A document sent to outside researchers running the 60,000-patient clinical trial states that a ā€œpausing ruleā€ has been met, that the online system used to enroll patients in the study has been closed, and that the data and safety monitoring board ā€” an independent committee that watches over the safety of patients in the clinical trial ā€” would be convened. The document was obtained by STAT.

Contacted by STAT, J&J confirmed the study pause, saying it was due to ā€œan unexplained illness in a study participant.ā€ The company declined to provide further details.

ā€œWe must respect this participantā€™s privacy. Weā€™re also learning more about this participantā€™s illness, and itā€™s important to have all the facts before we share additional information,ā€ the company said in a statement.

J&J emphasized that so-called adverse events ā€” illnesses, accidents, and other bad medical outcomes ā€” are an expected part of a clinical study, and also emphasized the difference between a study pause and a clinical hold, which is a formal regulatory action that can last much longer. The vaccine study is not currently under a clinical hold. J&J said that while it normally communicates clinical holds to the public, it does not usually inform the public of study pauses.

The data and safety monitoring board, or DSMB, convened late Monday to review the case. J&J said that in cases like this ā€œit is not always immediately apparentā€ whether the participant who experienced an adverse event received a study treatment or a placebo.

Though clinical trial pauses are not uncommon ā€” and in some cases last only a few days ā€” they are generating outsized attention in the race to test vaccines against SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19.

Given the size of Johnson & Johnsonā€™s trial, itā€™s not surprising that study pauses could occur, and another could happen if this one resolves, a source familiar with the study said.

ā€œIf we do a study of 60,000 people, that is a small village,ā€ the source said. ā€œIn a small village there are a lot of medical events that happen.ā€

On Sept. 8, a large study of another Covid-19 vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University was put on hold because of a suspected adverse reaction in a patient in the United Kingdom. Itā€™s believed that the patient had transverse myelitis, a spinal cord problem. Studies of the vaccine resumed roughly a week after it was paused in the United Kingdom, and have since been restarted in other countries as well. It remains on hold, however, in the United States.

Johnson and Johnson began enrolling volunteers in its Phase 3 study on Sept. 23. Researchers planned to enroll 60,000 participants in the United States and other countries.

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