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Day 322

Updated 12/7/2017 10:10 AM PST

1/ Trump Jr. cited attorney-client privilege and refused to discuss a phone call he had with his father about how to handle the fallout from his June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer. He told the House Intelligence Committee that a lawyer was in the room during the call. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the Committee, told reporters: "I don't believe you can shield communications between individuals merely by having an attorney present," adding "that's not the purpose of attorney-client privilege" and that "the presence of counsel does not make communications between father and son a privilege." (Politico / New York Times / Wall Street Journal)

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at
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Uh, shit just got weird:

@seabass they hadn’t updated the article yet when I posted that tweet. That’s amazing. :joy: It’s a big ole’ word salad!

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NY Times reported on 1/27/17: Russians Charged With Treason Worked in Office Linked to Election Hacking

What we know from the NYT report:

  • Arrested and (likely) charged with treason in December 2016:
    • Sergei Mikhailov, a deputy director of the Center for Information Security (the FSB’s computer security wing), had a bag thrown over his head and was arrested in the middle of a meeting with other senior officers in Moscow.
    • Ruslan Stoyanov, a senior researcher at Kaspersky Lab was also arrested.
  • Two US officials confirmed that ”human sources in Russia did play a crucial role in proving who was responsible for the hacking [of the DNC and Podesta’s emails]”.

Back in July, Richard Engel interviewed a lawyer for one of those charged and was practically threatened simply for asking about the arrests.

A full year after the arrests…

Update reported on Rachel Maddow tonight:
According to the The Bell (a Russian news outlet) in a article titled How America learned about “Russian hackers”, the the reason they were arrested was because:

“They helped the U.S. Intelligence services receive the evidence of the Russian hackers’ involvement in the last year’s attacks in the U.S.” and that the arrests are ”connected with U.S. elections”.

In addition, the report adds that the reason Sergei Mikhailov had a bag thrown over his head was because he is a black belt in karate and they “feared he would resist”.

(The article is in Russian, you can use google translate or see video below for details)

tl;dr from Maddow (and translated) on The Bell’s report: Russian media report confirms cyber attack on the US election

”If Russia hadn’t attacked the election, they wouldn’t have to lock up people who told U.S. Intelligence agencies that the Russians attacked the election.”

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@mouseam :face_vomiting::face_vomiting::face_vomiting: WTF!!! Seriously though, I did read that book twice. :face_vomiting::face_vomiting::face_vomiting:



He added: “A wonderful and loving lady, to whom we will be forever grateful, acted as a gestational surrogate for our twins and was able to carry them successfully to live birth. The process by which they were conceived was a pro-life approach that did not discard or throw away any embryos.”

From the article in that tweet

What the actual fuck does that mean? Good riddance!

@mouseam Is it just me or does that’s word salad imply that he conceived those twins with their surrogate “naturally”? Time to call Margret Atwood because we may have found a real life Governer of Gilead!


@Seabass Defo not just you :eyes::popcorn:

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@seabass you called it!

”Staffers were unsure whether Franks wanted a surrogacy through in vitro fertilization or sexual intercourse.”

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