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(David Bythewood) #332

Trump revives false claim on wall at CPAC

President Donald Trump asserted anew on Saturday that Mexico is paying for his border wall, even as his administration shifts billions from the Pentagon to cover some construction costs and Mexico pitches in nothing.

A look at some of his claims from his speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference:

TRUMP, on Mexico and his border wall: “Yes they are. They’re paying for it. And they’re OK with it. Mexico’s paying for it.”

THE FACTS: That’s false. Mexico is not paying for the wall. And far from being “OK with it,” Mexican leaders flatly rejected the idea when Trump pressed them early on.

“NO,” Enrique Peña Nieto, then Mexico’s president, tweeted in May 2018. “Mexico will NEVER pay for a wall. Not now, not ever. Sincerely, Mexico (all of us).”

The money is coming from today’s U.S. taxpayers and the future ones who will inherit the federal debt. In February, the Pentagon announced that it was slashing billions of dollars for Navy and Air Force aircraft and other military programs to divert money to the construction of the wall. More such military cuts are coming, officials said.

The president has come up with several creative formulations to argue that Mexico is in some way paying.

Among them: He has projected that his updated trade agreement with Mexico and Canada will stimulate enough extra growth over the years to cover the cost. Even if that happens, which analysts widely doubt, the wall will have cost the U.S. money that it could have used for something else. It’s not a payment from Mexico. He’s talked about taxing or blocking money that immigrants in the U.S. send to their countries of origin, often to family members. But that is not happening.

Trump has also credited Mexico with stepped-up enforcement against migrants and asylum seekers who come from other countries and try to get to the U.S. from Mexican soil.

TRUMP: “America has declared energy independence. I declared it.”

THE FACTS: He may have declared it but he hasn’t earned it.

The U.S. still needs plenty of oil from around the world. It imported a daily average of roughly 6.5 million barrels of crude oil last year, according to the Census Bureau. That is down from the 2018 average, though it does not mean independence.

Technological advances like fracking and horizontal drilling have allowed the U.S. to greatly increase production, but the country still imports millions of barrels of oil from Saudi Arabia, Canada, Iraq and other countries. Moreover, much of what the U.S. produces is hard for domestic refiners to convert to practical use. So the U.S. exports that production and imports oil that is more suitable for American refineries to handle.

On energy more broadly, the U.S. is indeed close to parity on how much energy it produces and how much it consumes. In some months, it produces more than it consumes. But it has not achieved self-sufficiency. In the first nine months of last year, it imported about as much energy as it exported.

TRUMP, on the situation before he became president: “American energy was under siege.”

THE FACTS: That’s a stretch, given how energy production was unleashed in past administrations, particularly Barack Obama’s.

As he has repeatedly, Trump took credit for a U.S. oil and gas production boom that he inherited and has continued under his watch. The U.S. Energy Information Administration says the U.S. has been the world’s top natural gas producer since 2009, top petroleum hydrocarbon producer since 2013, and top crude oil producer since 2018.


Some armed visits to unsuspecting immigrants with ICE threatening forced entry with a Criminal warrant in hand.

Thread…nyt reporter


1.If the person has no legal documents, Commits a crime, police let ICE know, and they can go get the person arrested and deported. Police do not deport people.

2.I believe that police do not let ICE know, but ICE is allowed to pick people up who are on their list for removal. AIUI this is what sanctuary cities is about: ICE wanting local cops to do their (federal) work for them.

(David Bythewood) #334

Somebody I work with on twitter made a point I didn’t even consider about this:

‘Flood the Streets’: ICE Targets Sanctuary Cities With Increased Surveillance

ICE is boosting its operations in sanctuary cities to arrest and deport undocumented immigrants, conducting round-the-clock surveillance in addition to deploying elite tactical agents.

(David Bythewood) #335

There’s been talk of this for some time. Now they’re moving on it still despite far greater issues.

An organization’s priorities tell you a LOT about them. For instance. ICE & CBP are denying basic medical attention to detainees during a pandemic, but want to collect DNA from them & migrants crossing the border to use in a federal criminal database.

(David Bythewood) #336

The New Sanctuary Coalition with graphics in English and Spanish on how to recognize ICE and other Immigration Officers:

The New Sanctuary Coalition with updated graphics in English, Spanish, Chinese, French, Kreyol, Portugese, Russian, Turkish, & Urdu to help you #KnowYourRights:

My general immigration Resources thread:

(David Bythewood) #337

For the Immigration thread:

With the coronavirus shutting things down, here is how you can take the census over the phone.

Mentionable News
(David Bythewood) #338

For the Immigration thread, which needs refreshing:

Despite urging to gather in groups no larger than 10 & the grave danger the #coronavirus can pose due to its subtle spread through asymptomatic carriers, USCIS, DHS, ICE, & other immigration departments under Trump pushing blindly ahead with usual or even increased activity.

ICE has transported immigrant minors on airlines during the pandemic, despite mass gridlock caused by the surprise, and botched, Trump travel ban announcement.

Immigration and asylum courts continue to hear cases unabated.

Amid coronavirus concerns, Justice Department continues “remain in Mexico” hearings in immigration courts

Chaos in New York’s Immigration Courts as System Crashes and Judges Call for All Activity to Stop

Asylum seekers attend border court amid outbreak

And ICE continues to make arrests and pack its detention centers with immigrants, creating a veritable breeding ground for the virus while denying any cases have been found.

With continued immigration enforcement activities, the cruelty is the point even in the time of the #coronavirus:

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keep up the good archiving @Windthin! :raised_hands:t3:

(David Bythewood) #340



You wonder if this is actually true…will ICE stop at this juncture but you certainly have a total mistrust of the system.

U.S. immigration authorities will temporarily halt enforcement across the United States, except for efforts to deport foreign nationals who have committed crimes or who pose a threat to public safety. The change in enforcement status comes amid the coronavirus outbreak and aims to limit the spread of the virus and to encourage those who need treatment to seek medical help.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement said late Wednesday that its Enforcement and Removal Operations division will “delay enforcement actions” and use “alternatives to detention” amid the outbreak, according to a notification the agency sent to Congress.

ICE told members of Congress that its “highest priorities are to promote lifesaving and public safety activities.” :exploding_head:

During the COVID-19 crisis, ICE will not carry out enforcement operations at or near health care facilities, such as hospitals, doctors’ offices, accredited health clinics, and emergent or urgent care facilities, except in the most extraordinary of circumstances,” the notification said. “Individuals should not avoid seeking medical care because they fear civil immigration enforcement.”

The agency, which is a part of the Department of Homeland Security, did not immediately respond to questions about how many of the approximately 37,000 detainees it has in custody will remain there. Nearly 20,000 in ICE custody have some sort of criminal history, but it remained unclear how many of those people have serious criminal violations in their past.

(Kara Hurvitz) #342

I definitely had the same exact reaction–I cautioned folks on a call today that ICE is saying this, but we need to see what actually happens in the coming week.

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Jails are going into lockdown mode.

(David Bythewood) #346

More for the immigration thread, I fear, @MissJava, and a re-fresh:

3 workers at facilities housing migrant kids in U.S. custody test positive for coronavirus

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refreshed! thread! :vulcan_salute:t3:

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There is a special place in hell for Ken Cuccinelli, but before he gets there I want to see him in the Hague first to stand trial for his war crimes.

Here he is celebrating keeping migrants locked up in dangerously close quarters during a pandemic:

(David Bythewood) #351

This is just so horrifying to hear.


It’s just heartbreaking, all of it. :broken_heart: