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(David Bythewood) #465

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(David Bythewood) #466
  1. I highly doubt this and

  2. If they’re playing the “they did it, so we did it” or “both sides do it” cards, I think they’re going to be highly disappointed in the results.

(David Bythewood) #467

Bill Barr’s meeting with Fox News chairman should be investigated

Hundreds of ISIS prisoners have escaped thanks to Turkish bombing and shelling.
Trump just accused THE KURDS of releasing them to get the U.S. involved.


No Doral For G7…T withdraws it.

President Trump’s decision to award the Group of Seven summit of world leaders to his own struggling Florida resort brought a flood of pushback from Democrats and members of his own party

Other U.S. sites will be considered, including Camp David, Trump tweeted.
This is a developing story. It will be updated

Story from WaPo TK

(David Bythewood) #469

And he whined about it. A lot. And forgot how to thread.


(David Bythewood) #470

A photographer’s account from the frontlines of Turkey’s incursion in Syria

Fact-checking Trump on the Kurds: Yes, they are more unsafe now. No, they aren’t more threatening than ISIS.

(David Bythewood) #471

‘Get the Hell Out of Syria. It’s Sand and Blood and Death’: Inside America’s Chaotic Retreat

President Trump’s decision to withdraw U.S. troops upended Middle East policy and empowered Washington’s adversaries

Real leadership in action.

Pelosi leads a surprise delegation to Jordan for ‘vital discussions’ on Syria crisis



10/20/2019 04:04 PM EDT

Justice Dept. confirms Trump Jr. and McGahn did not testify to Mueller grand jury


I’m beginning to think that we didn’t get the thorough investigation we thought we did.

The Justice Department confirmed Sunday that President Donald Trump’s son Donald Jr. and former White House counsel Don McGahn were never called before a grand jury that heard witnesses called by special counsel Robert Mueller.

The disclosure was set in motion by Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., who ruled last week that Justice Department attorneys had deleted too much information from a court filing last month in an ongoing legal dispute over Attorney General William Barr’s refusal to share with House lawmakers grand jury-related information in Mueller’s final report.

Howell’s opinion, issued Thursday, suggested it was perplexing why Trump Jr. and McGahn were not subpoenaed to testify before the grand jury.

“The Special Counsel’s reasons remain unknown,” Howell wrote. “The reason is not that the individuals were insignificant to the investigation. To the contrary, both of the non-testifying individuals named in paragraph four figured in key events examined in the Mueller Report. Assessment of these choices by the Special Counsel is a matter for others.”

Trump Jr. was present at the now-famous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting in which Trump campaign officials met with Russians. Before that meeting, he also received an email offering “dirt” on Democratic president candidate Hillary Clinton.

“If it’s what you say, I love it,” Trump Jr. responded.

Mueller never brought Trump Jr. before a Grand Jury. WTF? squared. Trump Jr. was at the very center of the collusion allegations. He should have been required to either perjure himself by lying (for which he could pay a price later) or tell the truth so we could get to the bottom of what happened. How in hell did he just skate? And were only now just finding this out.

How can any Republican claim that Trump was exonerated on collusion allegations when the key witness did not testify?

The judge suggested that she was “perplexed” that Trump Jr. was not subpoenaed. Perplexed? That’s a massive understatement. It’s outrageous. I wonder how many missteps like this will need to be uncovered before there are calls for reopening the investigation.

In April, prior to release of the report, one of the president’s personal attorneys tamped down talk that Trump Jr. exercised his constitutional right to remain silent.

“I can tell you I have no knowledge that anybody took the Fifth,” Rudy Giuliani said at the time.

The Trump con machine rolls on. Giuliani may be unhinged in many ways, but his maneuver here was brilliant. By saying Trump Jr. didn’t take the fifth, he implied that the President’s son did testify and did answer questions without invoking the fifth. But the real reason Trump Jr. never took the fifth was that he never testified. Again, WTF?

And there’s this, which is actually much worse:

Howell noted in her order last week that Mueller’s final report disclosed that one person highly central to the investigation — President Trump — was not interviewed or called before the grand jury. The special counsel considered subpoenaing Trump because of dissatisfaction with written responses to prosecutors’ questions but elected not to do so, the judge observed.



Meanwhile, in another investigation…

Hilary Clinton exonerated for a third time in her handling of emails

Clinton’s handling of her emails has been investigated for years by Congress, the FBI, and the State Department. All three investigations have exonerated her. The State Department is the latest to conclude its investigation – finding no deliberate mishandling of classified materials.

A multiyear State Department probe of emails that were sent to former secretary of state Hillary Clinton’s private computer server concluded there was no systemic or deliberate mishandling of classified information by department employees, according to a report submitted to Congress this month.

The report appears to represent a final and anticlimactic chapter in a controversy that overshadowed the 2016 presidential campaign and exposed Clinton to fierce criticism that she later cited as a major factor in her loss to President Trump.

In the end, State Department investigators found 38 current or former employees “culpable” of violating security procedures — none involving material that had been marked classified — in a review of roughly 33,000 emails that had been sent to or from the personal computer system Clinton used.

Overall, investigators said, “there was no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information.” The report cited “instances of classified information being inappropriately” transmitted, but noted that the vast majority of those scrutinized “were aware of security policies and did their best to implement them.”

While Clinton was exonerated, the Trump administration is flagrantly violating security protocols with zero accountability. As this article notes:

Diplomats involved in pressuring Ukraine to pursue investigations that would politically benefit Trump used private phones and texting apps to trade messages about their efforts, according to records released by leaders of the House impeachment inquiry.

Of course the Trump appointed officials and his personal lawyer used private emails and texting apps to communicate because they knew they were engaged in a criminal conspiracy to extort Ukraine into benefiting Trump’s campaign.


Weeks before Rudy Giuliani publicly became a figure to avoid in Washington, he managed to get a meeting with the top official in the Justice Department’s criminal division on behalf of a client.

The Justice Department now says that official, Brian Benczkowski, and other fraud prosecutors at Justice headquarters wouldn’t have taken that meeting with Giuliani earlier this summer had they known about a Manhattan US attorney probe of two Giuliani associates who were indicted this month.

Favorite line:

It is striking that the Justice Department is having to distance itself from the President’s own personal attorney. :rofl:

This announcement smacks of a CYA maneuver by Barr and there’s reason to believe he’s not being entirely truthful. As the article points out:

Justice officials have said Attorney General William Barr was briefed on the case in February upon taking office. Information about the case also was shared with the public integrity lawyers working in Benczkowski’s division.

A person familiar with the matter said that at the time, Giuliani wasn’t a central figure in the case as he is now. That emerged in recent weeks, the person said.

Still, New York federal prosecutors had their eyes set on Giuliani months ago. A New York lawyer told CNN that FBI counterintelligence agents asked him questions in February or March related to Giuliani and his associates.

It will be interesting to see how Giuliani reacts to the DOJ distancing themselves from him. When the State Department tried the same thing, Giuliani went bonkers and said they were lying. He waved around his phone, referring to text messages he said he had from State that proved he was doing work they requested. Then he published the texts.

Let’s hope he has some text messages from the DOJ as well. :smile: :popcorn:

(David Bythewood) #475

We knew they obstructed in many ways, this seems to be one of them.

(David Bythewood) #476

Friday was supposed to be the opening night of “Perra de Nadie,” a dance theater piece by acclaimed Spanish artist Marta Carrasco

Instead, Carrasco and her team were detained and then deported by U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents, leaving her Los Angeles host “horrified” and an 11-day run of performances canceled.

“The atmosphere was hostile, especially in the first hours when they took us each to different rooms to question us,” Carrasco wrote on Twitter. The interrogation lasted for five hours, she said.

(David Bythewood) #477

This is not adoption. It is kidnapping and human trafficking by the US government.

US troops leaving Syria cross into Iraq despite Trump rhetoric about “bringing them home”

The surest way for Trump to lose the backing of the military is to force them to be cowards in the face of their allies’ desperate plight.

U.S. soldiers who fought alongside Kurds blast Trump’s Syria retreat

I am pretty certain purging somebody from the voter role as an act of retaliation is illegal:

Ohio purge of targeted 40,000 active voters — including head of voting rights group


Monday, Monday, Can’t Trust That Day…

If you’re President, it’s got to be unnerving when you wake up Monday morning to this front page banner headline from the world’s number one news agency:


(David Bythewood) #479

In an interesting interview that shows how Turkey views Trump, their foreign minister openly laughs at him.

And for the weird vote:

Mitt Romney has secret Twitter account with alter-ego name ‘Pierre Delecto’ where he promoted his 2012 presidential campaign, nagged unflattering reporters and called Donald Trump’s Syria pullout ‘awful’

Missing: One Spine, Mint Condition, Never Used

Lindsey Graham Now Says He Supports Trump on Syria Pullout


In an interview on “Axios on HBO,” Jonathan Swan asked the South Carolina senator: "Are you open minded if more to comes out that you could support impeachment?"

"Sure, I mean show me something that is a crime," Graham replied. "If you could show me that, you know, Trump actually was engaging in a quid pro quo outside the phone call, that would be very disturbing."


The “Axios on HBO” segment was taped on Tuesday before acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney came under renewed scrutiny Thursday after he said, then denied, that Trump held up an aid package to Ukraine in exchange for an investigation into an unsubstantiated theory that Ukraine, not Russia, was responsible for hacking Democratic Party emails in 2016.

His comments undercut denials by the President of a quid pro quo, and stunned White House staffers who questioned his strategy.

(David Bythewood) #481

And yet he’s flip-flopped on Syria already. Whatever Trump has on Lindsey, it’s huge.

Here is Trump thanking Turkey for annexing part of Syria and “cleaning out” that land of the Kurds.

Ethnic cleansing, blunt and blatant. And he is bragging about it. There are a few other videos in following posts that are really worth looking at.


:100: this is the danger of the Trump Presidency. He does not seem to have the capacity for empathy nor the ability to understand that this is genocide.


Happy Monday!

President Donald Trump held a press availability during a Cabinet meeting on Monday, during which he went on a number of tangents and rants. Here are six of the wildest moments:

Schiff Is The Whistleblower’s Informant

Trump predictably went on a rant about the whistleblower at the heart of the House impeachment probe into Trump’s Ukraine scheme.

The rant got a little less predictable when Trump bizarrely suggested House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff (D-CA) was the informant in the whistleblower’s complaint.

Trump’s Trying To Get Us Out Of Wars But Also He Might Get Us Into Wars

As he was complaining about how the impeachment inquiry was distracting him from staying out of wars, Trump suddenly decided mid-sentence that he might go to war after all.

“In the midst of [the inquiry], I’m trying to get out of wars,” Trump said, immediately followed up by: “We may have to get in wars, too. We may have to get in wars.”

The “Phony” Emoluments Clause

Trump also spent several minutes moaning about being forced to cancel his plan to host next year’s G-7 summit at his Florida resort, claiming that using the resort for the summit would not serve to promote his businesses.

You’ve got to watch this clip of Trump first bragging in a way that (even for him) will make you cringe and then whining about the emoluments clause. What. A. Baby.

Glad to see that CNN is now actually overlaying his rants with “fact check boxes” (in this case when he flagrantly lies about Obama’s Netflix deal) – they’re basically saying, “In case you weren’t aware of it, the President is outright lying here.”

Etc., etc., etc.

I’d view the entire spectacle except I can’t stand to watch more than two minutes of him at a time and even that’s pushing it. I can only absorb summaries like this one.


Humor, memes, funny internet stuff etc
(David Bythewood) #484

I saw a shorter clip earlier, just watched the longer one. It really is out there.