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🤮 Coronavirus (Community Thread)


UPDATE: The CDC was reporting that the government conducted only 8 tests for coronavirus on 3/10 (as shown in the image of from their website above and reported by Dr. Sanjay Gupta). They have since revised that figure upward to 28 tests by CDC and 1388 tests by U.S. Public Health Labs (with a footnote that the data is incomplete – also, this does not include tests by private labs – I have no idea what that number might be).

So that’s good news, but still far, far fewer tests than we need. For example, Pence told us that every passenger on the Grand Princess would be tested, but days after the ship has docked, many have still not been tested. Chaos reigns during the ship evacuation and many of these people suffering – my heart goes out to them. Their experience, frankly, makes me feel very uneasy about how the Trump Administration is handling this pandemic and what might be in store for our nation as the virus continues to spread.

San Francisco Chronicle
March 12, 2020, 9:59 p.m.

Camp Corona: Quarantined Princess Cruises passengers describe chaos, lack of COVID-19 tests

Passengers trapped in their rooms for days on the Grand Princess cruise ship cheered when they sailed under the Golden Gate Bridge on Monday and disembarked at the Port of Oakland. But the ordeal is far from over.

In the days following, passengers who are quarantined at Travis Air Force Base in Fairfield have described a disorganized situation that is creating a roller coaster of anxiety, boredom and frustration. Some of the passengers say they haven’t received tests for coronavirus despite showing symptoms, while other passengers say they have been denied basic supplies, as well as answers on their medical conditions.

“You feel like Dorothy — you just want to click your heels together and go to ‘no place like home,’” Neil Kran, a 69-year-old Sausalito resident housed at the base with his wife, said on Wednesday. “It’s absolutely terrible.”

After 21 passengers and crew members aboard the voyage from San Francisco to Hawaii tested positive for COVID-19, more than 600 passengers were taken to Travis for a 14-day quarantine period. Meanwhile, 42 were flown to Marine Corps Air Station Miramar near San Diego, 124 were flown to Dobbins Air Reserve in Georgia, and 98 were taken to Lackland Air Force Base near San Antonio as of mid-day Wednesday. Foreign passengers were repatriated on charter flights.

About 700 people remained on the cruise ship by mid-morning Wednesday, state officials said. A relative of one passenger spent the day frantically searching for answers about her elderly mother’s situation.

Wendy Breskin, a North Carolina resident, said her 92-year-old mother and a 90-year-old companion left their rooms aboard the ship Wednesday and stood in line for the off-boarding process “for most of the morning.” They boarded a bus around 1:15 p.m. and waited there for about five hours before getting on a plane that would take them to Miramar in San Diego. Breskin said her mother thought the bus had been forgotten.

One person threw up on the bus, Breskin said. The passengers — many of them elderly — were served lunch and allowed one bathroom break.

“They have no idea what’s happening to them. Nobody’s telling them anything,” Breskin said. “For the first time, my mother (was) truly upset and scared.”

Stephen and Diane Houghton of Pleasant Hill had a similarly grim experience disembarking the ship and reaching Travis Air Force Base. Fifty passengers packed together on a bus — a move the Houghtons questioned because of how contagious the virus is — and waited inside the vehicle for hours in Fairfield because their accommodations weren’t ready.

They got off at 1 a.m. Wednesday morning and had to climb over a pile of 600 pieces of luggage in the dark to find their belongings on their own.

“It was an absolutely disorganized mess,” said Steve Houghton, 77, adding that his room had no cups for water, no toilet paper and no soap.

He said people in “spacemen-like outfits” have taken their temperature twice, but there has been no offer of testing for COVID-19, and people can wander around the facility.

“It isn’t a quarantine,” he said.

On Thursday morning, he asked someone on the facility’s medical staff for a COVID-19 test, but he was told he didn’t qualify because he had no symptoms.

Meanwhile, Kran, who arrived at Travis on Tuesday, said no one had contacted him or his wife, Meryl Schneider, to inquire about their health until Thursday morning, when a doctor came to check their temperature in their rooms. Neither have been tested for COVID-19.

Officials said all passengers will be tested at their quarantine sites.

Kran went to breakfast Wednesday morning and medical personnel took his temperature, wrote down his name and room number, and asked if he was experiencing the symptoms associated with the novel coronavirus, including fever and respiratory issues. But Schneider, who had not been feeling well and did not accompany her husband to breakfast that morning, was not screened until the room visit the next day, he said.

Robert Archer, a 65-year-old San Franciscan who is also housed at Travis, said doctors came to his room twice Wednesday to take his and his wife’s temperature. But neither have been tested for COVID-19 and they received “evasive” answers when they asked.

“It seems like we’ve been here a month already,” Archer said.

Several people have been taken away in ambulances, Archer said, and he saw another person collapse in the hallway. Guards and fences keep the hotel closed off, and ambulances are lined up in wait.

“It’s like, ‘Welcome to my nightmare,’” Archer said. “It’s a very unsettling experience.”

Archer shared photos of paperwork saying, “Details about testing for COVID-19 will be forthcoming.” But in the meantime, passengers were allowed to wander around and socialize freely — signaling the so-called quarantine wasn’t really a quarantine at all.

And their experience is confirmed today by BuzzFeed:

They’re Off the Grand Princess, But Passengers Say They Still Haven’t Been Tested for Coronavirus

We will be testing everyone on the ship,” said Vice President Mike Pence. But some passengers, now under quarantine in California, said their requests for testing have gone nowhere.

March 13, 2020, 12:26 p.m. ET

Four days after the Grand Princess cruise ship docked, passengers now under quarantine in California expressed frustration that they have still not been tested for the coronavirus.

The Grand Princess’s ill-fated voyage sparked international alarm when 21 people on board tested positive for the virus, causing the ship to be held for days off the California coast en route back to San Francisco from Hawaii. …

Before the ship’s more than 3,000 passengers and crew members finally docked in Oakland on Monday, officials announced plans to take the US residents to four military bases for quarantines and screening. “We will be testing everyone on the ship,” Vice President Mike Pence said late last week. “We will be quarantining as necessary.”

But as the end of this week approached, some passengers said their repeated requests for testing have gone nowhere, making them anxious about whether they have the disease…

(David Bythewood) #222

Florida. Damn Florida.


Trump just keeps on shaking hands.

After declaring a national emergency to combat the coronavirus outbreak, President Donald Trump shook hands with a series of corporate executives after they each made remarks at the White House podium – despite repeated advice from his own public health experts against such contact.

Brian Cornell, Chairman and CEO of Target Corporation shakes hands with US President Donald Trump on Friday, March 13.

BTW, Trump knows he has previously shaken hands with someone who has tested positive for the coronavirus (see @Windthin’s post), yet he still persists in this behavior. If anyone with this kind of exposure to the virus shook my hand, I would be furious. It’s much like they are carelessly waving a gun in your face.

Also BTW, Rachel Maddow has stopped shaking hands with her guests, even making a jovial point about her new policy – setting a good example. Meanwhile, our dangerous clown of a President puts millions in jeopardy by the bad example he keeps setting.

(David Bythewood) #224

I really, truly fear what will happen if the #coronavirus ever gets inside one of these ICE detention centers. We have ample past evidence from refugee and military camps how disease can tear through them.

ICE is ignoring a simple way to slow the spread of coronavirus: Let people out of detention.


Trump fundraiser attendees notified fellow attendee has tested positive for coronavirus

Trump Victory on Friday informed donors via email who attended a fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago on Sunday that a donor who also attended the event has tested positive for the coronavirus, according to an email obtained by ABC News.

“We unfortunately write today to notify you that an attendee at the Trump Victory-sponsored event you attended at Mar-a-Lago on Sunday, March 8,” the joint committee between the Trump campaign and Republican National Committee wrote in an email sent today.

ABC News has reached out regarding if Mar-A-Lago will undergo a deep cleaning but has yet to hear back. The Trump campaign’s massive offices in Arlington, Virginia are set to be deep cleaned as staff work from home though Monday, multiple sources tell ABC News.


Of course Trump is lying when he makes excuses for his administration’s utter failure to deploy desperately needed coronavirus tests by blaming Obama.

President Trump, widely criticized for his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, tried to shift blame Friday to his predecessor’s handling of a health crisis 11 years ago.

In a series of tweets Friday morning, Trump accused former President Barack Obama of making unspecified changes that “complicated” the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention’s testing system.

Trump falsely charged the Obama administration’s response to the H1N1 swine flu outbreak as a "full scale disaster, with thousands dying, and nothing meaningful done to fix the testing problem, until now."

Trump has, on numerous occasions, accused the Obama administration of implementing a rule change that complicated testing. However, no such rule was ever put in place, according to …


  1. The “rule change” Trump is whining about is a complete fabrication.

  2. The non-existent “rule change,” if it actually did exist, would now be 11 years old.

  3. Obama left office in January, 2017. Trump has had over three years to change that rule that doesn’t even exist. Instead, he eliminated the Pandemic Response team. As @dragonfly9 commented back in May of 2018 when alerting us to this, “WTF!!!”

:lying_face: :lying_face: :lying_face:

(M A Croft) #227

Oh How Sad! Never Mind.
In case you are not aware of how nasty a person Peter Dutton is here is what some Australians think of him.

(Lisa Hertel) #228

Here in Massachusetts, everything is shutting down. Public schools are closing for the next two weeks. Universities are closed and going online for at least a month. Many houses of worship have closed or are altering their services. Pretty much every event has been cancelled or delayed. The supermarkets are seeing panic buying, especially of cleaning supplies, sanitizer and toilet paper. I suspect it will get so bad that anyone with medical training will be called on to volunteer in hospitals. Theoretically, tests are available, but you have to get approval from the department of health, which is unreachable. Restaurants and retail businesses (especially small ones) are suffering. Many businesses that can do so have ordered their employees to work from home. It’s bad.

(David Bythewood) #229

The governor just suspended schools here also, and the university is shut down. Even my landlords’ office is.

(David Bythewood) #230

Pelosi, Trump strike deal on coronavirus response package

(David Bythewood) #231


Contrary to Trump’s claim, Google is not building a nationwide coronavirus screening website

Instead, Verily is building a triage website just for the Bay Area

(Pamela) #232

Very few things scream, “Trump is such a fucking racist” like the way Trump responds to any question posed by Yamiche Alcindor. I’ve see him start responses to her with, “ You know, that’s a really stupid question” and other outrageousness. It fills me with a rage I cannot begin to describe.


I agree…Fauci’s body language throughout suggested he knew that T was spewing lies.

Here is something from Sen Sherrod Brown saying he definitely sent a letter to the WH when those offices closed.

(David Bythewood) #234

More on the Google thing:

(David Bythewood) #235

So after two days of “let’s all join together in unity”, this is what Trump tweeted out tonight.

A) - Lies about his “leadership”.


B) - Attacks on the press.


C) - Most prominently, attacks on Biden…


…the most bizarre of which accuses him of lying when he states, factually, that we need millions of tests, not thousands, while ALSO boasting about millions of tests coming and lying about how many have been conducted.


Another person who had dinner with Trump has COVID-19

Yet Trump is still not getting tested or isolating himself. That’s just plain selfish. Giving him a test would be easy – it would ensure he’s not spreading the disease himself and would allow him to get a jump on treatments if he is infected (he owes that to the nation – he’s working for us and we don’t want a sick President who will not be able to carry out his responsibilities).

Acting Brazilian ambassador Nestor Forster, who sat at President Trump’s table Saturday night during a dinner at Mar-a-Lago, has tested positive for the coronavirus, the embassy said Friday night. Forster is the third person who visited the president’s South Florida resort last weekend to test positive for the novel virus.

The White House acknowledged the additional diagnosis in a memo released Friday just before midnight. The president’s physician, Sean P. Conley, wrote that Trump did not need to be quarantined or get tested for covid-19.

“These interactions would be categorized as LOW risk for transmission per CDC guidelines, and as such, there is no indication for home quarantine at this time," Conley wrote. “Additionally, given the President himself remains without symptoms, testing for COVID-19 is not currently indicated.” …

(M A Croft) #237

Now here is an advert one can truly relate to

(M A Croft) #238

Maybe Trump is a "Super Carrier "? aka asymptomatic carrier. He would like that!

(David Bythewood) #239

Trump once again shows what REALLY matters to him, as he sends a personally signed chart showing stock market gains to supporters after he declared coronavirus a national emergency.

I hope they wash their hands first.

(David Bythewood) #240

“Typhoid Donnie” has a nice ring to it.

The Trump Administration Will Move Ahead With Its Plan To Kick People Off Of Food Stamps Despite The Coronavirus Outbreak