Day 426


(Gord) #11

Now let me get this right: Kelly is pissed at someone in the WH leaking Trump’s contact with Putin - which actually happened - but sides with him every time he lies.
The morality of this whole presidency is casting a shadow to every young mind listening to news and their elders. When I watch Fox Entertainment News, it is very hard for me to understand how anyone can abide the crap that flows there. Evan their business station is filled with vile, untrue information.
What is to become of this? How long will it take to get America back?


(Matt Kiser) #12

:thinking: sounds vaguely familiar to “make america great again”


#13

No dude, the WH is mad because someone with super high security clearance leaked to the press words from his security briefing. It’s a serious offense even during a normal presidency.:nerd_face:


(Amy Ginsburg) #14

Make America ours again? Anybody know of a cheap hat maker? I’d wear one.


(Amy Ginsburg) #15

Payback’s a bitch. Just in…


#16

Tonight Rachel Maddow continued her groundbreaking reporting on the nefarious deeds of one Elliott Broidy and one George Nader. Broidy is the deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee as well as a frequent drop-in at the Oval Office. Nader, who might best be described as “Broidy’s sidekick” is well connected to both the ruler of the U.A.E and the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. Incidentally, in 2009, Broidy confessed to distributing $1 million in bribes and, in 2003, the Czech Republic convicted Nader of pedophilia. Quite the pair of sterling characters! Just the kind of lowlifes you’d expect to gravitate to Trump’s White House.

News just broke that Mueller granted Nader immunity as a cooperating witness and has summoned him back from overseas for further testimony – a sure sign we’re onto something bigly here.

Rachel interviewed, Mark Mazzetti, a New York Times reporter, who is currently sifting through a huge trove of leaked documents that appear to reveal a multi-million dollar influence peddling operation concocted by this duo. Here’s Rachel’s penetrating analysis followed by the interview:

And here’s the NYT article co-authored by Mazzetti:

The takeaway: OK, I’m going out on a limb here, but I have a feeling this story is a veritable powder keg. We could be looking at a massive political corruption scheme fed by the promise of $1 billion in contracts of which $200 million has already been delivered by the U.A.E. The scheme may well involve the Republican National Committee and Trump himself. And this doesn’t even include the previously reported capers of these two bumbling Beagle Boys.


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(Lynn) #17

Reminds me of someone else (who was really in tune) that said “let them eat cake”. :roll_eyes:


(Lynn) #18

Are you sure they aren’t? I have the dark impression that this is clueless by choice & conspiracy, just like the unprecedented national debt that Republicans now endorse, when they used to at least pretend to represent fiscal conservatism? I cannot recall a time when we saw SO many of either party that are so blatantly wasting taxpayer dollars in ridiculous & obvious ways (such as building “the wall”)…do they WANT our government to fail? Everything trump does seems to suggest that, and some in the GOP have clearly been doing his bidding in very strange ways. I wish I could draw some happier conclusion, but just look at all the worst, truly-incompetent people that trump has put in charge. It all fits…I wish it didn’t.


(Amy Ginsburg) #19

Your points are all good ones. I wasn’t kidding when I suggested Trump may be paying off people in the WH (in this case, his cabinet) for loyalty which includes not releasing information. This isn’t coming out of his pocket, but he is approving the spending so it’s even better. He can bribe people with the Government’s money. It’s undeniably corrupt and outright inappropriate. It’s money that we pay in taxes to ensure the welfare of the people of this country. I still don’t get why there are people who approve of this man when he’s surrounded by all of these stories. It may be these very same people who will end up on welfare because Trump never got them the jobs they were offered. And as for the tariff on Chinese goods, it’s going to badly hurt major retailers who, in turn, will either raise prices, or cut back on staffing and wages. How can this possibly be good for America? Everybody lauded Trump because he was going to run the U.S. like a business. Well, first of all, that model doesn’t work. We need an expert on the government and the rules of law that go with it. And even if it did work, the business leader would need to be successful at what he does and not because he is constantly firing people, running up bills, partying on the company’s dime, and making promises he never had intentions of keeping. As things stand, there probably won’t be a happier conclusion, at least until the midterm elections…hopefully.


(Matt Kiser) #20

Speculation.


(Lynn) #21

They forgot to specify “a successful, competent, honest & ETHICAL” businessman. I only wish that watching this play out was half as funny as Dudley Moore’s wishes in the movie “Bedazzled”…that’s really what this reminds me of. (He kept being tricked by the Devil, he got everything he wished for, quite literally, but somehow he was never quite specific enough. It’s a wonderful movie, very educational…:rofl:)


(Lynn) #22

“Speculation”? How is that different from “share perspectives”?
And I’m not being flip, I’d really like to know.


#23

I watched that Maddow segment too. She really does a great job setting up the story and walking you through the plot points.


(Matt Kiser) #24

Well, one is about a point of view based on what is known, and the other is conjecture rooted in a lack of supporting evidence.


(Amy Ginsburg) #25

Absolutely. It’s just a gut reaction to what I’ve observed and the fact that he or his attorneys paid off the women to keep them quiet. My gut, admittedly, isn’t perfect. But it’s easy enough to imagine what "could’ be going on. I certainly have no evidence it is actually going on. My imagination frequently takes over because part of me still sees the ongoing events as a fictional thriller. My mind cannot wrap its self around what’s going on. So, I compensate by anticipating the next chapter of this fictional story, until I have to face facts and accept that this is reality. But it’s still intriguing to try and second guess what’s going on behind the scenes. I’m sure if it ever comes out, we may all be amazed.


#26

Sounds like there’s a lack of candor in Washington with all the investigations, wonder if there’s a pill for that?


(Lynn) #27

There is…several kinds actually, just ask Russia.


(Gord) #28

On leaks: remember how Nixon was brought down. Leaks are just whistleblowers with insider info into Trump’s craziness. Without them, we wouldn’t even be having these discussions. They are the WH police force right now. Be thankful we have them!


(Matt Kiser) #29

Yeah, no. That’s not how it works…


(Gord) #30

What is up? Trump wants a parade -but when hundreds of thousands show up in Washington-he is golfing in Florida!?! He could have had a ‘march-by’ and not even had to bother the military!
ALSO: when a slime ball like Digenova doesn’t want to join Trump …