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Today, so far:

  1. Trump says he won’t participate in the second presidential debate on Oct. 13 because it will be virtual instead of in-person. “I’m not going to waste my time on a virtual debate. It’s not what debating is all about,” Trump said. “It’s ridiculous.” The Commission on Presidential Debates made the announcement early this morning that the second debate would be virtual. Biden’s campaign immediately agreed to the new format, but Trump’s campaign manager said Trump will “pass on this sad excuse to bail out Joe Biden and do a rally instead.” Candidates are not required by law to participate in presidential debates. (CNN / Axios / CNBC)

  2. Trump required medical personnel at Walter Reed medical center to sign nondisclosure agreements before they could be involved in his treatment. At least two Walter Reed doctors who refused to sign nondisclosure agreements during Trump’s visit in Nov. 2019 were not permitted to be involved in Trump’s care. Trump required signed NDAs from both physicians and nonmedical staff, most of whom are active-duty military service members. The reason for Trump’s visit last year is still unknown. Anyone providing medical services to the president — or any other American — is automatically prohibited by federal law from disclosing a patient’s health information without consent, which raises questions about why Trump would insist on additional legal measures like an NDA. (NBC News)


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Previously

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Moving on this covid treatment with almost religious zeal, or election vote-grabbing enducement. IMHO

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AP is reporting this.

WTFery

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CNN reporting.

Wow - you think? Yes…I do, but Republicans- aren’t they afraid of what T might do to them?

Pelosi: ‘We’re going to be talking about the 25th Amendment’ | TheHill

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday that Democrats will hold an event on Friday to discuss the 25th Amendment amid concerns over President Trump’s coronavirus diagnosis.

"Tomorrow, by the way, tomorrow, come here tomorrow. We’re going to be talking about the 25th Amendment. But not to take attention away from the subject we have now," she said in response to a question at a press conference regarding a possible coronavirus stimulus package.

When pressed for clarification as to whether Pelosi believes it is time to invoke the 25th Amendment, which delineates presidential succession, she declined to provide an explicit answer but hinted the discussion was tied to what she said was a lack of transparency from the White House over Trump’s health.

"I’m not talking about it today except to tell you, if you want to talk about that, we’ll see you tomorrow," she said. "But you take me back to my point, Mr. President, when was the last time you had a negative test before you tested positive? Why is the White House not telling the country that important fact about how this made a hotspot of the White House?"

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So not to T’s liking…so he quits the 2nd debate. That’s the way T likes to do things.
Get out…

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This is WiLd!

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Indeed. It’s the very definition of stochastic terrorism.

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Wow. Seven MORE people, not the six who were after Whitmer, arrested.


The FBI says it has foiled a militia plot to kidnap Governor Gretchen Whitmer, target law enforcement, and instigate a Civil War. Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel joins Katy Tur to discuss



Wolverine Watchmen. I am waiting for Marvel and DC to team up and sue.

UPDATE:

FBI affidavit: Conspirators wanted to kidnap gov to remote Wisconsin location

The court filing alleges the conspirators twice conducted surveillance at Whitmer’s vacation home and discussed kidnapping her to a remote location in Wisconsin to stand “trial” for treason prior to the Nov. 3 election

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It’s not ok to sneak around and ask for your case to be dropped.

Elliot Broidy, a top GOP fundraiser who worked on President Donald Trump’s inaugural committee, is expected to plead guilty to charges he failed to disclose his role in a secret lobbying effort to stop a US criminal investigation into a multi-billion dollar fraud at a Malaysian investment fund, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

Prosecutors charged Broidy with one count of conspiracy, alleging he and his co-conspirators’ goal was to “make millions of dollars by leveraging Broidy’s access to and perceived influence with the President and his administration,” according to a court filing.

Broidy is the latest person in Trump’s orbit to be hit with criminal charges – a list of friends, advisers and former administration officials that includes Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort and Steve Bannon. Bannon has pleaded not guilty to federal charges in New York. The others have either pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial.

Broidy is expected to plead guilty to the conspiracy charge later this month in a deal with the Justice Department to resolve its investigations of him, according to a person familiar with the investigation.

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From Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe - not acceptable the behavior from the President.

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With T unraveling, looks like Barr is taking more of a backseat to aiding T’s need for the Durham Report to come out, or is it Durham himself. Either way, surprising that T’s allies have been slow walking T’s desperate pleas for election-related help.

It may just be more writing on the wall that the 25th Amendment is well underway…just surmising here. Fingers crossed.

President Donald Trump is increasingly at odds with Attorney General William Barr over the status of the Justice Department’s investigation into the origin of the Russia probe, with the president increasingly critical about a lack of arrests and Barr frustrated by Trump’s public pronouncements about the case, according to people familiar with the matter.

Trump and his allies had high hopes for the investigation led by Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, betting it would expose what they see as wrongdoing when the FBI opened a case into whether the Trump campaign was coordinating with Russia to sway the 2016 election. Trump has also pushed to tie prominent Obama administration officials to that effort as part of his campaign against Joe Biden, who was serving as vice president at the time.

But a year and a half into the investigation, and with less than one month until Election Day, there has been only one criminal case: a former FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to altering a government email about a former Trump campaign adviser who was a target of secret FBI surveillance.

With time running out for pre-election action on the case, Trump is increasingly airing his dissatisfaction in tweets and television appearances. Barr, meanwhile, has privately expressed frustration over the public comments, according to a person familiar with his thinking. It’s not dissimilar to a situation earlier this year, when Trump complained publicly that he believed ally Roger Stone was getting a raw deal in his prosecution, even as Barr had already moved to amend a sentencing position of the prosecutors in the case.

Despite Trump’s unhappiness, there’s no indication Barr’s job is at risk in the final weeks of the campaign. Still, the tensions between Trump and the attorney general over the fate of the probe underscore the extent to which the president is aggressively trying to use all of the levers of his power to gain ground in an election that has been moving away from him.

This account is based on interviews with six people who have direct knowledge of Trump and Barr’s relationship. They were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Trump is also said to blame Barr for comments from FBI Director Chris Wray on election fraud and mail-in voting that don’t jibe with the president’s alarmist rhetoric. Wray has said there has not historically been any kind of mass voter fraud, whether through the mail or otherwise, a message at odds with Trump and Barr’s repeated efforts to sound the alarms about a process they claim is especially vulnerable to abuse.

But a year and a half into the investigation, and with less than one month until Election Day, there has been only one criminal case: a former FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to altering a government email about a former Trump campaign adviser who was a target of secret FBI surveillance.

With time running out for pre-election action on the case, Trump is increasingly airing his dissatisfaction in tweets and television appearances. Barr, meanwhile, has privately expressed frustration over the public comments, according to a person familiar with his thinking. It’s not dissimilar to a situation earlier this year, when Trump complained publicly that he believed ally Roger Stone was getting a raw deal in his prosecution, even as Barr had already moved to amend a sentencing position of the prosecutors in the case.

Despite Trump’s unhappiness, there’s no indication Barr’s job is at risk in the final weeks of the campaign. Still, the tensions between Trump and the attorney general over the fate of the probe underscore the extent to which the president is aggressively trying to use all of the levers of his power to gain ground in an election that has been moving away from him.

This account is based on interviews with six people who have direct knowledge of Trump and Barr’s relationship. They were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Trump is also said to blame Barr for comments from FBI Director Chris Wray on election fraud and mail-in voting that don’t jibe with the president’s alarmist rhetoric. Wray has said there has not historically been any kind of mass voter fraud, whether through the mail or otherwise, a message at odds with Trump and Barr’s repeated efforts to sound the alarms about a process they claim is especially vulnerable to abuse.

Still, much of the uptick in tensions between Trump and Barr centers on the Justice Department’s handling of the Durham probe. A senior administration official said Trump feels like he’s given Barr wide latitude to advance the investigation, including declassifying documents related to Russia. In the absence of blockbuster findings, Trump is now moving to make documents public himself with his new acting head of intelligence.

On Thursday morning, Trump did not hide his displeasure in an interview on Fox News Business.

“Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes — the greatest political crime in the history of our country — then we’ll get little satisfaction, unless I win,” he said. “Because I won’t forget it. But these people should be indicted. These are people who spied on my campaign. And we have everything. And I say, Bill, we’ve got plenty, you don’t need anymore. We’ve got so much.”

The comment followed an earlier barrage of presidential social media posts, including one in which Trump retweeted a doctored image of Barr superimposed with the late “Saturday Night Live” actor Chris Farley in character as a motivational speaker yelling at him. The caption: “for the love of God ARREST SOMEBODY.”

The Justice Department declined to comment on the matter. The White House did not immediately comment.

Since Durham’s appointment, he has cast a broad net in interviewing former government officials, including ex-CIA Director John Brennan. It is unclear when Durham plans to submit his report or how damning any of his final conclusions might be.

Even the outlines of the case involving FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who pleaded guilty in the Durham probe, were already known before he was charged. And the case against him didn’t allege any broader FBI conspiracy to go after Trump.

Barr has privately expressed frustration over the president’s public pronouncements on the Durham investigation. Though Barr is broadly in agreement with Trump on the need to investigate the origins of the Russia probe, he’s often bemoaned Trump’s lack of understanding about the intricacies of the legal system and the steps that need to be taken to complete an investigation.

A friend of Barr’s said there has been obvious “tension” between the president and the attorney general, and while Barr himself believes deeply in the importance of the Durham investigation and in the president’s authority to exercise control over federal agencies, he will not tolerate interference in specific investigations.

The friend said the Justice Department officials were eager for Durham’s work to be completed while Trump is still in office for fear the investigation would be shuttered in a possible Biden administration.

Trump aides had banked on the Durham probe being finished before 2020 election to lend credibility to Trump’s claims that his own investigative agencies were working against him. A report from the Justice Department’s inspector general in December knocked down multiple lines of attack against the Russia investigation, finding that it was properly opened and that law enforcement leaders were not motivated by political bias. But Barr has said he and Durham disagreed with the inspector general over whether the FBI had enough information to open a full investigation and, in particular, to use surveillance on a former Trump campaign aide.

Despite being close allies on a range of issues, tensions have flared between Trump and Barr at other points, including earlier this year when Trump was tweeting about Stone’s case. Barr later reversed a recommendation from prosecutors that Stone be sentenced to 7 to 9 years in prison, and critics argued he was doing Trump’s bidding.

Barr said in an interview with ABC News that the president’s tweets were making it “impossible” to do his job and told those close to him he was considering resigning. The two eventually patched things up.

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Request for the entire unredacted Mueller Report by Buzzfeed to DOJ because of T’s tweet saying all of it can be unredacted and released.

Some more agitation for the WH. Self-inflicted, yet such brazen messaging.

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Tiny man.

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